Money question?

[Mogobs30th]

Re: Money question?

Honestly, I don't care about your views on life, Wes. I really dont. My wife and I grew up in great families that taught us strong morals and values so we definitely don't need some dude on the internet to help us raise our kids LOL. You are an individual person with individual ideas, values, morals and techniques and I respect that even though I think you are misguided. I respect it so much that I will deploy to a war torn country, put my life in jeopardy, away from my family for months at time to fight and protect your right to freedom and individuality. I have another 9+ years of commitment to that.

The fact that you can't just let things be and let people live their lives how they see fit and realize that people won't always agree with you is just f'ing hilarious haha. I think things about you are dumb because you say that "I don't understand them". Maybe, JUST MAYBE, people on here do things that you feel are dumb because you don't understand them and they don't have an obsession to explain themselves and make you understand. Weird to think about huh?

What bothers me is your general demeanor and overall @sshole of a personality toward other people on this board. Its unwarranted and not necessary. :)

:tup:

Keep going on and on and on about how much you don't care, and you keep responding everytime. You're either a liar, a hypocrite, or both, but you're one of them. All I have done is defend an opinion, and while I might have called yours dumb, its not as if I didn't give you some support to look over with mine. All you've done is pull off trying to be "cool" by saying you don't care and "its the internet", when its quite obvious at this point by your repeated responses that in some way bothers you. Your action is in direct contradiction to your words, plain and simple. So don't BS me, do that crap with the kids, Im a grown man.....:rolleyes:

As for my demeanor, that is a matter of perspective. The same people at my throats right now have supported me on other rants in the past, its all a matter of perspective and/or convenience. And I have seen some of the smartass comments you've given to people over the years, my advice would be to not throw stones.

[huggercamaro99]

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Shodown, your last 2 posts are right on. Couldn't have said it better

[Shodown]

Re: Money question?

Im pretty sure I got my point across pretty thoroughly at this point. I don't have my Direct TV hooked up in our new house yet, so if I'm bored enough later on I might chime in, but my point is made. No reason to get anyone else's panties in a bunch :)

[DAS BOOT]

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Too much to read.... but my wife i making too damn much money to quit... LOL I'd quit first...

[kristen]

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Wes , didn't your mother ever teach you " if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.".

Guess not.

Must just be my morals and your lack there of.

[Mogobs30th]

Re: Money question?

I had to put this on my FB, but there is seriously no person more insufferable in this world than a new parent. They get more and more pretentious every generation.

Morals are a matter of perception. Where I might lack in your perception of morals, I make up for in work ethic.

[kristen]

Re: Money question?

work ethic....work ethic....are you f#cking kidding me wes....

i get up at 430 every morning, get ready for work, get my son up at 505. get him ready, we are out the door by 514 drive into philly. at my aunt house by 615. drop gabe off. say goodbye then i'm at work by 630, I WORK MY F&CKING A$S OFF from the second i walk in the building until the second i walk out. i don't take either of my 15 mins breaks nor do i take my lunch, just so i can leave work an hour early to spend more time with my son. i leave work at 2. pick gabe up at 215. home by 310.

this is where my next job starts. clean lunch bowls, pack 3 lunches, cook dinner, clean EVERYDAY. play with gabe while doing everything i mentioned plus what ever might pop up. shaun gets home at 5. he takes over with gabe so i can finish dinner. family dinner at 515. try to takes bites of my own cold food while encourging gabe to eat his peas instead of shoving them up his nose or in his ear. finish dinner by 6ish. clean up gabe. change his diaper, remove any food that i found in his diaper. place him in his swing. kiss him good nap turn on wonder pets and return to the kitchen where i try to take another few bites of my now freezing dinner. shaun and i tag team the dishes and gabes chair. every few mins i have to return to gabe to pick up "mr t" (his lovey) give it back to him, tell him not to throw it on the ground, then return to the kitchen. feed the cat. return to gabe a dozen more times until he finally falls asleep. then i get to do laundry, and take a shower and blow dry my hair. sit on the couch for my frist break of the day which is all of 10 mins before i have to wake gabe up. get up make gabe a sippy cup, wake up gabe, put him on the potty(yep he's almost 17 months old and i starting to teach him about the potty) i spend my time between 730 and 830 running around the back living room with him, playing and watching for any sign that he might have to go to the bathroom. 830, it's daddy time which means shaun has him from 830 til 930. but i spend 830 til 930 still watching for any signs he might have to use the potty. 9 pm. shaun give gabe a bath so i get some time with out the boy...usually cleaning. then its a fast bottle for gabe and we take him to bed by 10 pm. after i get him down i go right to bed, where i always crash before my head even hits the pillow. 6 1/2 hours later i'm up starting all over again.....

over all that shaun and i still find time for each other. neither one of us could do this without the other support. that is how we succeed.


don't fu3king talk to me about work ethic. you worked 5 freaking months last year...don't even say that there was no work for you. you could have walked you *** down the street and taken a job at a burger king, wendys ANYTHING. BUT YOU DIDN'T

every mother works twice as hard as you ever will....even when i'm not with gabe, i'm working cr@p out in my head trying to figure out when i can squeese in time to run to the food store, run to bj's to pick up diapers and wipes. reading what ever i can to figure out how to introduce the a potty to an infant, watching that gabe hits all of his milestore. praying that i dont see signs of autisum and wondering about the over all saftey and joy of the best thing that has ever happened to me.

[Bird_Of_Prey]

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work ethic....work ethic....are you f#cking kidding me wes....

i get up at 430 every morning, get ready for work, get my son up at 505. get him ready, we are out the door by 514 drive into philly. at my aunt house by 615. drop gabe off. say goodbye then i'm at work by 630, I WORK MY F&CKING A$S OFF from the second i walk in the building until the second i walk out. i don't take either of my 15 mins breaks nor do i take my lunch, just so i can leave work an hour early to spend more time with my son. i leave work at 2. pick gabe up at 215. home by 310.

this is where my next job starts. clean lunch bowls, pack 3 lunches, cook dinner, clean EVERYDAY. play with gabe while doing everything i mentioned plus what ever might pop up. shaun gets home at 5. he takes over with gabe so i can finish dinner. family dinner at 515. try to takes bites of my own cold food while encourging gabe to eat his peas instead of shoving them up his nose or in his ear. finish dinner by 6ish. clean up gabe. change his diaper, remove any food that i found in his diaper. place him in his swing. kiss him good nap turn on wonder pets and return to the kitchen where i try to take another few bites of my now freezing dinner. shaun and i tag team the dishes and gabes chair. every few mins i have to return to gabe to pick up "mr t" (his lovey) give it back to him, tell him not to throw it on the ground, then return to the kitchen. feed the cat. return to gabe a dozen more times until he finally falls asleep. then i get to do laundry, and take a shower and blow dry my hair. sit on the couch for my frist break of the day which is all of 10 mins before i have to wake gabe up. get up make gabe a sippy cup, wake up gabe, put him on the potty(yep he's almost 17 months old and i starting to teach him about the potty) i spend my time between 730 and 830 running around the back living room with him, playing and watching for any sign that he might have to go to the bathroom. 830, it's daddy time which means shaun has him from 830 til 930. but i spend 830 til 930 still watching for any signs he might have to use the potty. 9 pm. shaun give gabe a bath so i get some time with out the boy...usually cleaning. then its a fast bottle for gabe and we take him to bed by 10 pm. after i get him down i go right to bed, where i always crash before my head even hits the pillow. 6 1/2 hours later i'm up starting all over again.....

over all that shaun and i still find time for each other. neither one of us could do this without the other support. that is how we succeed.


don't fu3king talk to me about work ethic. you worked 5 freaking months last year...don't even say that there was no work for you. you could have walked you *** down the street and taken a job at a burger king, wendys ANYTHING. BUT YOU DIDN'T

every mother works twice as hard as you ever will....even when i'm not with gabe, i'm working cr@p out in my head trying to figure out when i can squeese in time to run to the food store, run to bj's to pick up diapers and wipes. reading what ever i can to figure out how to introduce the a potty to an infant, watching that gabe hits all of his milestore. praying that i dont see signs of autisum and wondering about the over all saftey and joy of the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Just pointing out that you found time to contradict yourself by making this post. :wave: ;)

[kristen]

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you might think that..i knew someone would say that...but nope...my a$s is in a meeting right now. so yes i am working.


might i add

that i LOVE my life. i wouldn't change it for anything....ok only thing i would change and will change is the amount of kids we have.

i love the people in my life, i love doing things for them and having them do things for me.

[Bird_Of_Prey]

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Wish I could play on the innernets from meetings.... I actually have to be present and pay attention!!!

[Jtels2593]

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Between my wife and I, we make just shy $80k per year. Our "new to us" house was built in 1959 and we purchased it for $32,000. It was appraised in 2007 at $72,000. Our mortgage, home owners insurance and yearly taxes break down to a combined $315/mo. We have three cars, with another on the way. Two cars are paid off and we will be making $800/mo worth of car payments. We have car insurance, gas & electric, water, cell phones, cable, garbage service, grocery, animal and fuel expenses as well as a high limit Home Depot credit card.

We do just fine with what we clear and hand-out every month, not to mention we are still able to save a good amount of money. We don't have children yet, but plans are in the works and we can afford it.

The original point some of us were trying to get across is that it depends where you live. We wouldn't have what we have on our income if we lived in California or Arizona. But in Ohio we do better than a lot of people. We are comfortable with what we have and are blessed to be this fortunate. Everyone wants to move on to bigger and better things eventually, but life is about who you have in it, not how much god damn money you make.

I'd prefer to be loved by someone and homeless than a lonely, miserable, self indulgent yuppie wiener who drove everyone away with extreme beliefs, anger and a passion for greed.

[kristen]

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Wish I could play on the innernets from meetings.... I actually have to be present and pay attention!!!

i already presented at that point. and you can really tell that you are a male...can't multitask.

[Bird_Of_Prey]

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i already presented at that point. and you can really tell that you are a male...can't multitask.

Oh, I can multitask. Unfortunately playing on the internet at work isn't considered multitasking, that's goofing off, shorting your employer time they pay for, and just cause for termination. Check your employee handbook. If I caught someone f'ing around on a car forum in a meeting, I'd immediately show them a door since they showed me where their priorities lie.

[Bird_Of_Prey]

Re: Money question?

Between my wife and I, we make just shy $80k per year. Our "new to us" house was built in 1959 and we purchased it for $32,000. It was appraised in 2007 at $72,000. Our mortgage, home owners insurance and yearly taxes break down to a combined $315/mo. We have three cars, with another on the way. Two cars are paid off and we will be making $800/mo worth of car payments. We have car insurance, gas & electric, water, cell phones, cable, garbage service, grocery, animal and fuel expenses as well as a high limit Home Depot credit card.

We do just fine with what we clear and hand-out every month, not to mention we are still able to save a good amount of money. We don't have children yet, but plans are in the works and we can afford it.

The original point some of us were trying to get across is that it depends where you live. We wouldn't have what we have on our income if we lived in California or Arizona. But in Ohio we do better than a lot of people. We are comfortable with what we have and are blessed to be this fortunate. Everyone wants to move on to bigger and better things eventually, but life is about who you have in it, not how much god damn money you make.

I'd prefer to be loved by someone and homeless than a lonely, miserable, self indulgent yuppie wiener who drove everyone away with extreme beliefs, anger and a passion for greed.

I'd question the wisdom of having that much in car payments every month on that income. Tossing $10k per year out the window on a depreciating liability seems silly when you can grow your wealth instead. It's best to start saving now and reap the rewards in the future. I really don't want to turn this into a need/want discussion, just pointing out a slight flaw in your planning.

All and all, this boils down to what makes everyone happy. My happiness is found tinkering around with my Camaro, splashing around the lake on my boat, partying it up in Vegas, and spending as much time as I can with my nieces and nephew. If someone wants to make the fiscal sacrifices to be a stay at home parent, then so be it. My sister is a stay at home mom, and loves it. I know the sacrifices my brother in law makes to support their family and wouldn't belittle anyone for making that choice. I doubt I'll have kids of my own, and that's a personal decision. Some might find that selfish, so be it. I know I don't have the capability to deal with kids, and the associated issues involved. Besides, we're running out of room at the thanksgiving dinner table anyway!

[firebirddrvr]

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work ethic....work ethic....are you f#cking kidding me wes....

i get up at 430 every morning, get ready for work, get my son up at 505. get him ready, we are out the door by 514 drive into philly. at my aunt house by 615. drop gabe off. say goodbye then i'm at work by 630, I WORK MY F&CKING A$S OFF from the second i walk in the building until the second i walk out. i don't take either of my 15 mins breaks nor do i take my lunch, just so i can leave work an hour early to spend more time with my son. i leave work at 2. pick gabe up at 215. home by 310.

this is where my next job starts. clean lunch bowls, pack 3 lunches, cook dinner, clean EVERYDAY. play with gabe while doing everything i mentioned plus what ever might pop up. shaun gets home at 5. he takes over with gabe so i can finish dinner. family dinner at 515. try to takes bites of my own cold food while encourging gabe to eat his peas instead of shoving them up his nose or in his ear. finish dinner by 6ish. clean up gabe. change his diaper, remove any food that i found in his diaper. place him in his swing. kiss him good nap turn on wonder pets and return to the kitchen where i try to take another few bites of my now freezing dinner. shaun and i tag team the dishes and gabes chair. every few mins i have to return to gabe to pick up "mr t" (his lovey) give it back to him, tell him not to throw it on the ground, then return to the kitchen. feed the cat. return to gabe a dozen more times until he finally falls asleep. then i get to do laundry, and take a shower and blow dry my hair. sit on the couch for my frist break of the day which is all of 10 mins before i have to wake gabe up. get up make gabe a sippy cup, wake up gabe, put him on the potty(yep he's almost 17 months old and i starting to teach him about the potty) i spend my time between 730 and 830 running around the back living room with him, playing and watching for any sign that he might have to go to the bathroom. 830, it's daddy time which means shaun has him from 830 til 930. but i spend 830 til 930 still watching for any signs he might have to use the potty. 9 pm. shaun give gabe a bath so i get some time with out the boy...usually cleaning. then its a fast bottle for gabe and we take him to bed by 10 pm. after i get him down i go right to bed, where i always crash before my head even hits the pillow. 6 1/2 hours later i'm up starting all over again.....

over all that shaun and i still find time for each other. neither one of us could do this without the other support. that is how we succeed.


don't fu3king talk to me about work ethic. you worked 5 freaking months last year...don't even say that there was no work for you. you could have walked you *** down the street and taken a job at a burger king, wendys ANYTHING. BUT YOU DIDN'T

every mother works twice as hard as you ever will....even when i'm not with gabe, i'm working cr@p out in my head trying to figure out when i can squeese in time to run to the food store, run to bj's to pick up diapers and wipes. reading what ever i can to figure out how to introduce the a potty to an infant, watching that gabe hits all of his milestore. praying that i dont see signs of autisum and wondering about the over all saftey and joy of the best thing that has ever happened to me.

way to make me not ever want kids....


on the flip side im going to comment on a more recent post about being homeless and more happy or whatever....and id just like to say that anyone who says money doesnt buy happiness is an idiot simply put. i will say that money is not the only thing that leads to happiness but everything else held constant (such as relationships friendships etc) money does make one happier. I can speak out of experience on this one. My wife and I got married back in May of 2010 bought a place etc. now we were doing all of this on about 25k a year combined. we could make it month to month just fine and have a savings built up, but there was nothing left at the end of each month. it was really stressful knowing that all there was to do was sit at home every day and find something to keep us entertained haha. now before anyone says it, we by no means have anything fancy or expensive. we shopped and our house payment is roughly what rent in a small 2 bedroom appt would cost in the area. however, we have both since gotten promotions and make quite a bit more now while still working roughly the same amount of hours. My stress level has gone down drastically! It is so nice now being able to go get some chinese (which i love) and not sweating bullets over going under budget for the month. its also nice to be able to go bowl with friends, or go watch monster trucks (which i also love). we still dont have some things people would consider basics such as cable, but i actually dont mind not having it. id much rather spend the money elsewhere. I do believe there is a point though where making more money is not going to make you happier than you previously were, but having money can make you happier.