Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

[Mogobs30th]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

So basically fractional payoffs, writeoffs, and charity is how you paid down $200k in debt....outstanding. I can tell you now I have NEVER been offered a fractional payoff, had one write off from Rush University hospital for a little over $400, and haven't had a charity intervene. There hasn't been that kind of intervention on my behalf, which is forcing my hand into bankruptcy. I have debt that is 7 years old, STILL accruing interest. My debt is ever-increasing, and I have no CC's, or unsecured credit at a retailer. My credit rating is around 472, I couldn't get a loan for $.50. I have talked my HEAD off to some of these creditors and collection agencies, and its done nothing at all.

Can't say that it CAN be done. God knows Ive tried for years, Ive got nothing out of it.

[jughead]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

This case is just SAD. I hope people come to realize HEALTHCARE IS NOT A RIGHT! ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE THERE FOR IS TO PROTECT INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS!!!! Nothing more or less!

Also you I see talk of personal debt. Guys, read a little material and stick it to the creditors! The one thing that is more valuable then Money is your Signature. Paying your debt is a form of staying in, "Honor." It is pretty easy to win against creditors or whoever files motions or liens against you. Just ask them to prove the debt. In the US, as per the Constitution(which is still reconized by some authorities here), all money or debts, "Must be backed by Gold," not a fake fiat system.

[Everglades W68]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

I hope people come to realize HEALTHCARE IS NOT A RIGHT!

"I will not tolerate such statements - bring this infidel to me!"

[Heywood]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

I am not saying the current system is great but I think its better then national healthcare. Which BTW people tend to forget you will pay for it.

Countries with free healthcare don't have free healthcare, their taxes pay for it. If it happens here expect hire taxes to cover the cost. So if you are middle class.... Expect to get assraped for the ones that don't pay, or pay a little amount of taxes.

No **** their taxes pay for it. See this is what gets me upset about the healthcare debate. The Grand Old Party has people convinced that using YOUR tax money to send American soldiers overseas to fight and DIE in a 10-year modern day Vietnam is a better investment than healthcare reform. It's ****ing SICK and I can't believe people still have the nerve to call themselves "patriots" when encouraging such policies.

Yes the Iraq/Afghanistan wars don't cost as much as the proposed universal healthcare (a point commonly mentioned) but I dare anyone to put a price on the lives of over four thousand dead American soldiers.

[Heywood]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

In the US, as per the Constitution(which is still reconized by some authorities here), all money or debts, "Must be backed by Gold," not a fake fiat system.

Well, you're wrong. << click
In other words: Welcome to 1973. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I'll get my debt advice elsewhere.

[jughead]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

Well, you're wrong. << click
In other words: Welcome to 1973. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I'll get my debt advice elsewhere.

No you are wrong. Its simple. Fiat is a, "Faith based system" As long as you have faith in it, it remains in good standing. See, you can CHOOSE to be in the system or not. Are you Mr Heywood, the legal fiction, or are you Heywood from whatever family klan you choose? Whatever has been, "legislated, or made into, "acts" or "torts" only has legal basis is you consent. Just like entering a plea in court, your consenting to their jurisdiction.

Also, i see your comments on the War. I am Soldier, and I know all to well. War is just enforcing the political will of(Given Country) by force of arms.

And the reason your probably in debt is b/c you made a contract, thus, if in default, its not a crime, its a CIVIL wrong, or broken contract.

[jughead]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

Well, you're wrong. << click
In other words: Welcome to 1973. I appreciate the enthusiasm, but I'll get my debt advice elsewhere.

Also, in other words, what happened in 1973 was an, "unrevealed Contract." When did you, or I consent to that?

[sac2165]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

My $0.02 -

I think a lot of the blame needs to be placed on the licensing boards for medical professionals. They claim to be acting in best interest of the public, but in reality I think their main focus is to keep as few medical professionals in the field to keep the salaries astronomical.

With my engineering boards, all they want to do is increase the amount of schooling, and make the tests harder to get a license. Fewer engineers, higher demand = higher salaries. What a joke.

[Rhunadan]

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And canadian healthcare isn't free.... If I broke a leg Canada is fine, major medical problem? I'll stay in the USA thank you.[/QUOTE]

No Canadian healthcare isn't free. We pay dearly for it through our taxes. But no mater what your illness is, you are covered, regardless of your income. We're not some 3rd world country up here. We can can do anything your doctors can do plus some that they can't. Canada is and has always been a pioneer in medical research.If we have have to wait a little longer for surgery, its because everyone is covered and it takes time to get so many people through the system. The US doesn't have long waits because too many can't afford to get in line. Keep in mind the aging populations of both our countries and the extra medical care they're going to need. The s**it is going to hit the fan.

[Rhunadan]

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What does it cost to insure a family of 4 in the U.S. these days with a good health care plan? I'm curious how much less expensive it is down there?

[DAS BOOT]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

So basically fractional payoffs, writeoffs, and charity is how you paid down $200k in debt....outstanding. I can tell you now I have NEVER been offered a fractional payoff, had one write off from Rush University hospital for a little over $400, and haven't had a charity intervene. There hasn't been that kind of intervention on my behalf, which is forcing my hand into bankruptcy. I have debt that is 7 years old, STILL accruing interest. My debt is ever-increasing, and I have no CC's, or unsecured credit at a retailer. My credit rating is around 472, I couldn't get a loan for $.50. I have talked my HEAD off to some of these creditors and collection agencies, and its done nothing at all.

Can't say that it CAN be done. God knows Ive tried for years, Ive got nothing out of it.

Don't know what to saw... Try credit forums. I forgot the name of it. I didweeks of research on it from a crddit forum I was reccomended off cz28. At the end of the day.... If you do go throughto bankruptcy. You will get out. You think your life would be better commiting a crime and going to prison? You also got the medical care you needed. There is more to this world then a good financial standing.

As for your credit i think going "off the credit grid". I think you should be using and paying it off. I had credit cards from even before my issues and I used them like i always did afterwards. Buy everrything on credit and pay it off as I go along paying little or no interest. Showing i make monthly payments on time and have a revolving debt.

[DAS BOOT]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

No **** their taxes pay for it. See this is what gets me upset about the healthcare debate. The Grand Old Party has people convinced that using YOUR tax money to send American soldiers overseas to fight and DIE in a 10-year modern day Vietnam is a better investment than healthcare reform. It's ****ing SICK and I can't believe people still have the nerve to call themselves "patriots" when encouraging such policies.

Yes the Iraq/Afghanistan wars don't cost as much as the proposed universal healthcare (a point commonly mentioned) but I dare anyone to put a price on the lives of over four thousand dead American soldiers.

Didn't Obama just start sending more troops out. Obama also holds Tue record for nobel peace prize winner to order cruise missile attacks in Libya. When did this become an anti-war thread?

No i want my government NOT touching a thing with healthcare. The us pays more money per student then any other country in the world but we have poor quality students in comparison. As I stated before, the no part of the government runs efficiently and smoothly. Only programs listed are ones that have near unlimited funding.

We have one of if not the best healthcare in the world just leaves you with debt after it. If you cant get your debt coverd it just sets you back years financially. Which talking first hand sucks but i am alive and healthy.

[2.8 Bird]

Re: Man Robs Bank for $1 in order to get free healthcare in jail

What does it cost to insure a family of 4 in the U.S. these days with a good health care plan? I'm curious how much less expensive it is down there?

I pay $372 for mine every month and I've only been to the doctor once in 2010. I haven't gone this year.

Hate to tell you this, but Canada and the rest of the world (except for French) look up to the US when it comes to research and development in the healthcare industry.

[DAS BOOT]

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I pay $230 a month. My wife paid like $280 when we were under her plan.

When it comes to anything more major then routine appendix out, broken leg, pregnancy, etc.... There are very few countries I would go to for medical care.

One guy in Bulgaria and another in Canada had the same cancer as me. Guy in Bulgaria was diagnosed right but given the wrong treatment. Guy in Canada was misdiagnosed twice and ended up died because it spread to much.

The Bulgarian guy was just sad, we were on a message board similar to this, and his wife was posting and asking questions and everyone on the board knew and told her he was recieving the wrong treatment, but there was nothing they could do. Knowing the right treatment is out there you just aren't going to get it and disingenuous slowly.


What is that website about "first world problems". I have one to add. "I got top of the line healthcare no matter what but I have bad credit"

My issue in 90% of the world I would have been dead. Since my issue I got married and had a kid.

[Rhunadan]

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[QUOTE
Hate to tell you this, but Canada and the rest of the world (except for French) look up to the US when it comes to research and development in the healthcare industry.[/QUOTE]

Man I don't know where you get your info from.