I think I'm getting old.

[Pewter02Camaro]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

Making blanket statements usually gets you into trouble.

[Red&Black_Attack]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

Yeah well I challenge anyone with a stockish 3.8 to come race my 3rd gen. I'll gladly oblige. Lol...

Unless you've owned and drove both like I have you cant tell me otherwise.

Hell proof's in this guys post:

Sorry, don't mean to side track the topic but I just want to show you this. From zeroto60.com

1983 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 0-60 mph 9.1 Quarter mile 16.8
1984 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am HO 0-60 mph 7.8 Quarter mile 15.9
1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA (Auto) 0-60 mph 7.0 Quarter mile 15.3
1988 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA 0-60 mph 7.3 Quarter mile 15.7(TPI 305)
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 0-60 mph 6.4 Quarter mile 14.6 (350 TPI)
1991 Pontiac Trans Am Convertible 0-60 mph 6.9 Quarter mile 15.2


Our stock V6 has more than enough potential to hang with the V8 350's of the 80's.

http://www.thirdgen.org/mt_july_1990...the_5.0_corral The 305 which indeed these v6's can potentially beat. Pay attention to the mustangs numbers. Which the tpi 350's actually had more hp/tq than. ;)
http://www.thirdgen.org/last_IROC_ht_january_1990 I dont think these v6's are 14 second cars stock. Sorry. :P

I'm done here. Back on topic shall we? :)

[96blackmaro]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

I would race your 3rd gen. Too bad your half a country away.

[2.8 Bird]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

Yeah well I challenge anyone with a stockish 3.8 to come race my 3rd gen. I'll gladly oblige. Lol...

Unless you've owned and drove both like I have you cant tell me otherwise.

Hell proof's in this guys post:


http://www.thirdgen.org/mt_july_1990...the_5.0_corral The 305 which indeed these v6's can potentially beat. Pay attention to the mustangs numbers. Which the tpi 350's actually had more hp/tq than. ;)
http://www.thirdgen.org/last_IROC_ht_january_1990 I dont think these v6's are 14 second cars stock. Sorry. :P

I'm done here. Back on topic shall we? :)

1983 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 0-60 mph 9.1 Quarter mile 16.8
1984 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am HO 0-60 mph 7.8 Quarter mile 15.9
1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA (Auto) 0-60 mph 7.0 Quarter mile 15.3
1988 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA 0-60 mph 7.3 Quarter mile 15.7(TPI 305) NOPE ... TPI 305 UPC LB9 190hp 295tq, H.O. TPI 305 215hp 285tq, GTA UPC B2L 350 225hp 330tq. Sorry, no such thing as a 305 GTA. Maybe you're thinking of IROC Camaro
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 0-60 mph 6.4 Quarter mile 14.6 (350 TPI) They are lighter and more aerodynamic than GTA.: Formula weight 3,245lbs GTA weight 3,416lbs
1991 Pontiac Trans Am Convertible 0-60 mph 6.9 Quarter mile 15.2

Source www.gtasourcepage.com and "Standard Catalog of Firebird" by John Gunnell pg. 134-138 and my former GTA :p

So no such thing as a 14 sec. GTA. Not till 1990-2 when they are up to 235-240hp even then still you can only get a high 14 once in a while if you're lucky. I know. I've raced my 89 bone stock (paper filter and everything) before with only 60k on the clock and I could only get 15.6 best time. My Bird can do better.

You also can't deny the testimony of some of the members here from the past who has beaten GTA's before. Sorry, you're not going to win this one.

[Blizzard242]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

Why are you guys getting so bent out of shape over this? How bout, who the hell cares and.. Shut up. Or go make your own thread so I don't have to read this crap.

[flamingchicken]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

So, how old are you?

[Blizzard242]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

I'm a 26 year old idiot. I believe I've been in a bad mood since I woke up this morning so it's worse today.. I'll take it out on my girlfriend later then ask her how she likes PMS.

[LETZRIDE]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

I'm a 26 year old idiot. I believe I've been in a bad mood since I woke up this morning so it's worse today.. I'll take it out on my girlfriend later then ask her how she likes PMS.

...alzymers has you forgetting to take your happy pills now huh?

[Blizzard242]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

lmao, yup. Gawd damn construction workers blocking my subdivision on my way to work let me know I wasn't very appreciative of other people this morning. And a nasty bump due to their construction scraping my under K pipes.

[Red&Black_Attack]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

1983 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 0-60 mph 9.1 Quarter mile 16.8
1984 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am HO 0-60 mph 7.8 Quarter mile 15.9
1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA (Auto) 0-60 mph 7.0 Quarter mile 15.3
1988 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA 0-60 mph 7.3 Quarter mile 15.7(TPI 305) NOPE ... TPI 305 UPC LB9 190hp 295tq, H.O. TPI 305 215hp 285tq, GTA UPC B2L 350 225hp 330tq.Sorry, no such thing as a 305 GTA. Maybe you're thinking of IROC Camaro
1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula 0-60 mph 6.4 Quarter mile 14.6 (350 TPI) They are lighter and more aerodynamic than GTA.: Formula weight 3,245lbs GTA weight 3,416lbs
1991 Pontiac Trans Am Convertible 0-60 mph 6.9 Quarter mile 15.2

Source www.gtasourcepage.com and "Standard Catalog of Firebird" by John Gunnell pg. 134-138 and my former GTA :p

So no such thing as a 14 sec. GTA. Not till 1990-2 when they are up to 235-240hp even then still you can only get a high 14 once in a while if you're lucky. I know. I've raced my 89 bone stock (paper filter and everything) before with only 60k on the clock and I could only get 15.6 best time. My Bird can do better.

You also can't deny the testimony of some of the members here from the past who has beaten GTA's before. Sorry, you're not going to win this one.

:rolleyes: Dont exist? http://www.thirdgen.org/1988-pontiac-firebird You STILL havnt said what your GTA was wether it was a 305 or 350.. I've seen enough 350 tpi GTA's and f-bodys in general run 14's stock. Go look around on TGO dude.

[Blizzard242]

Re: I think I'm getting old.

:rolleyes: Dont exist? http://www.thirdgen.org/1988-pontiac-firebird You STILL havnt said what your GTA was wether it was a 305 or 350.. I've seen enough 350 tpi GTA's and f-bodys in general run 14's stock. Go look around on TGO dude.

Seriously. Make a new thread.