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Originally posted by MTMike: Bring our boys home, Nuke the whole place, and pave it so our damn oil trucks don't get stuck in the sand going to the oil wells
Originally posted by hawgs: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mattsv6: silence is what is losing the battle! we need too be strategic and have no more screw ups. more people in the senate and un need too take the fuking blindfold off and see that the us has been hit, and wil be hit again.
we have to end terrorism or our children will suffer the consequences!
I can TOTALLY imagine one of the al-Qaida people saying the same thing only with different roles. Turn what you said around to be the al-Qaida people saying to the US... totally makes sense. We cannot think like this, this is obsurd. Being an extremsist is no way to fight this. Its like fighting Diarrhea by drinking Epson salt and water... the sh*t is just going to keep flowing.
We have to be bigger then them... we cannot just have this "lets be extreme and kill everyone of them" attitudes because thats the attitude we are fighting. Lets fight this war with more diplomacy and moderate force. Killing everyone is not a reasonable suggestion. </font>[/QUOTE]OMFG, this is what I was going to write! This is the new form of guerilla warfare, remember in Vietnam when they blew that guy's head off on TV? SAME DAMN THING! There has NEVER been a guerilla warfare that was LOST by the "terrorists," although when we were the ones sniping British soldiers from the woods and slitting their throats in their sleep, or hanging Tories; we would have hardly thought about ourselves that way. They just don't have any other way to fight us.
Originally posted by 98v6: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hawgs: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mattsv6: silence is what is losing the battle! we need too be strategic and have no more screw ups. more people in the senate and un need too take the fuking blindfold off and see that the us has been hit, and wil be hit again.
we have to end terrorism or our children will suffer the consequences!
I can TOTALLY imagine one of the al-Qaida people saying the same thing only with different roles. Turn what you said around to be the al-Qaida people saying to the US... totally makes sense. We cannot think like this, this is obsurd. Being an extremsist is no way to fight this. Its like fighting Diarrhea by drinking Epson salt and water... the sh*t is just going to keep flowing.
We have to be bigger then them... we cannot just have this "lets be extreme and kill everyone of them" attitudes because thats the attitude we are fighting. Lets fight this war with more diplomacy and moderate force. Killing everyone is not a reasonable suggestion. </font>[/QUOTE]OMFG, this is what I was going to write! This is the new form of guerilla warfare, remember in Vietnam when they blew that guy's head off on TV? SAME DAMN THING! There has NEVER been a guerilla warfare that was LOST by the "terrorists," although when we were the ones sniping British soldiers from the woods and slitting their throats in their sleep, or hanging Tories; we would have hardly thought about ourselves that way. They just don't have any other way to fight us. </font>[/QUOTE]So that makes it right? Do NOT try and justify them cutting a civialian's head off.
**** carrying a knife...id be lugging around MULTIPLE automatic weapons..and a few choice devices that go BOOM. I totally think we should go pull everyone out of that ****ing country and turn it into a parking lot by just nuking the bastards...But then again if we go doing that then every Crazy,stupid country with ANY kind of nuclear capability is gonna think "Oh the U.S can do it so can we"...next thing ya know...Some travelers from another planet are diggin our asses up a few thousand years from now kuz we killed ourselves in an all out nuke fest. So I think we just need to keep doing what we are doing...Kuz its better than starting an all out nuclear war.
Originally posted by hawgs: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98v6: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hawgs: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mattsv6: silence is what is losing the battle! we need too be strategic and have no more screw ups. more people in the senate and un need too take the fuking blindfold off and see that the us has been hit, and wil be hit again.
we have to end terrorism or our children will suffer the consequences!
I can TOTALLY imagine one of the al-Qaida people saying the same thing only with different roles. Turn what you said around to be the al-Qaida people saying to the US... totally makes sense. We cannot think like this, this is obsurd. Being an extremsist is no way to fight this. Its like fighting Diarrhea by drinking Epson salt and water... the sh*t is just going to keep flowing.
We have to be bigger then them... we cannot just have this "lets be extreme and kill everyone of them" attitudes because thats the attitude we are fighting. Lets fight this war with more diplomacy and moderate force. Killing everyone is not a reasonable suggestion. </font>[/QUOTE]OMFG, this is what I was going to write! This is the new form of guerilla warfare, remember in Vietnam when they blew that guy's head off on TV? SAME DAMN THING! There has NEVER been a guerilla warfare that was LOST by the "terrorists," although when we were the ones sniping British soldiers from the woods and slitting their throats in their sleep, or hanging Tories; we would have hardly thought about ourselves that way. They just don't have any other way to fight us. </font>[/QUOTE]So that makes it right? Do NOT try and justify them cutting a civialian's head off. </font>[/QUOTE]He sort of has a point Ross. I mean this was a bit different, though. This whole thing is horrible - but one of the things thats horrible about it is the fact that its so senseless. I mean, kidnapping an American w/ no real power to leverage against the Saudi government? The poor guy lost his life, and his family lost their loved ones in nothing less than a cold blooded killing. I mean, not even the most hardcore terrorist could justify this.
However, one thing that does need to be kept in mind is that we perceive these people as terrorists - but we need to fight them remembering that many people who may not totally agree with them see them as freedom fighters none the less.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
However, one thing that does need to be kept in mind is that we perceive these people as terrorists - but we need to fight them remembering that many people who may not totally agree with them see them as freedom fighters none the less.
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"
True, but who's to say that freedom fighter is going about it in a way that will get results acceptable to others? There are many, many variables going on that not all are privy too, and mass bombing is not the answer, in fact it will make things worse & actually give those dogs the justification they so crave. Surgical strikes w/host nation support is the way to do it.
Quick, not neccessarily clean, but effective.
Or if you want, pick the two choices they give you: Convert ot be killed.
Originally posted by 98v6: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />True, but who's to say that freedom fighter is going about it in a way that will get results acceptable to others?
French Revolution, anyone?
Or if you want, pick the two choices they give you: Convert ot be killed.
The writing is on the wall. Choose.
Or, reinstate Saddam since he has the power to govern the unrulies and he isn't a fundamentalist muslim... </font>[/QUOTE]are you insane?
no, it's called sarcasm lol... but honestly, theyre just ****ed and there ain't a damn thing we can do about it. Bush jr boned 'em up the bung hole big time and if we withdrew it'd probably curtail the terrorism at least momentarily
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