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    Well since my wife won't let me have the BlackBird, I thought I would just settle for this: The new Saturn Ion redline:
    Engineers added an air-to-water intercooler to reduce the temperature of air entering the engine. This cooler air enhances the effectiveness of the supercharger. In the Red Line, the supercharger and intercooler system produces a maximum boost level of 12 pounds. The Red Line engine is a special 2.0L Ecotec engine, built with lower-compression pistons and other components necessary to handle the unique requirements of a supercharged application. A high-flow air intake and a high-flow exhaust manifold are tuned to move air quickly through the engine. Along with the new engine, the vehicle’s cooling system is upgraded with a larger radiator core and larger cooling fans.
    When it came to exhaust, engineers maintained the "move air quickly" ideal with a 2.25-inch exhaust system that incorporates a low restriction catalytic converter and low restriction muffler. The system lowers backpressure from the engine, enhancing the performance of the supercharged engine and giving the ION Red Line a distinct note from its large, chromed exhaust tip.
    The five-speed manual transmission is new to the Red Line and has a higher torque capacity to withstand the increase in output from the engine. Its gear ratios were selected specifically for this application. The gears are spaced in even increments to keep the engine in its "sweet spot" between shifts. A short-throw shifter quickens the shifts and provides a more positive feel, too. Equal length half shafts are utilized to limit the tendency of torque steer in this powerful, front-drive application. A final drive ratio of 4.05:1 was selected to complement the supercharged engine’s power. Connecting the Red Line to the road is a set of Continental 215/45 W-rated performance tires mounted to 17 x 7 inch, six-spoke forged alloy wheels. The Performance Division destroked the engine, lowered its compression ratio from 10:1 to 9.5:1, bolted on a Roots-type supercharger (making 12.5 pounds of boost), stuffed in a Laminova air-to-water intercooler, and underrated it at 200 hp and 149 lb-ft of torque. That's right, they underrated it. Our Dynojet revealed the truth, which is an impressive 197 hp at the wheels at 6450 rpm and 169 lb-ft at 5250 rpm. And it would be more if GM's engineers had more time. The engine crashes into its rev limiter at 6450 rpm while it's still building power.
    At the dragstrip, the tall gearing really hurts the car's performance. It's a heavy car at 2,960 pounds, but with nearly 200 hp at the wheels, it should be quicker than it is.
    Base price : $19,820
    Engine : 4 cylinder, supercharged DOHC, front engine FWD
    Displacement : 1,998 cc
    Valve : 16 valves, 4 valves per cylinder
    Transmission : 5-spd manual

    Horsepower : 200 hp @ 6450 rpm
    Torque : 200 lb-ft @ 5800 rpm
    Redline : 6450 rpm
    Top speed : 144 mph
    0-60 mph : 6.3 sec.
    0-¼ mile : 15.3 sec @ 94.5 mph
    60-0 braking distance : 121 ft
    200 ft skidpad : 0.85 g
    Curb Weight : 2960 lbs


    Honestly, what does everyone think? It is a little ricey, but it's domestic. And with mods, I could easily get 14.5
    New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
    RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
    crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
    The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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    Buy it... put a chip in it.. run 14s lol.
    00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk

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    • #3
      if you could wait for the cobalt...but otherwise have fun.
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      • #4
        wait for the cobalt. seriously, it looks so much better than the Ion Redline, and i think it has a little more power also.

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        • #5
          same power but i like the ion styling better... unfortunately the ecotec PCM hasn't been cracked yet so it's all mechanical upgrades; i'm sure a sweet intake and exhaust set up would get it in the 14s

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          • #6
            I like the new Ion Redline,nice body styling.go for it [img]smile.gif[/img]
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            • #7
              I'd say go for it. I was checking one out while I was waiting for the dealership to finish the processing of my car sale for the Buick. Sat in it and worked the shifter, they almost called the cops on me for indecency... J/K Those Recaro seats could make long distance rides a bit rough, however.
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              • #8
                [img]graemlins/barf.gif[/img] eww

                ok, take a step back and think to yourself, "I drive a saturn" sounds horrible doesnt it.

                Now think about this, you see a guy with a nice car, your not in your car though

                you: "Nice car man"
                him: "Thanks, what do you drive?"
                you: "Saturn"
                him: [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
                RedlineVSix

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
                  [img]graemlins/barf.gif[/img] eww

                  ok, take a step back and think to yourself, "I drive a saturn" sounds horrible doesnt it.

                  Now think about this, you see a guy with a nice car, your not in your car though

                  you: "Nice car man"
                  him: "Thanks, what do you drive?"
                  you: "Saturn"
                  him: [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
                  he already drives a Saturn.. he's trading for another.

                  I'd do it.
                  2002 Silver Metallic A4 Firebird - All Options
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                  Your Mom or My Dad?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
                    i drive a V6 dodge ram
                    [img]tongue.gif[/img] only kidding, b

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                    • #11
                      What the hell folks?,

                      You sit there and complain that the F-Body is steroetyped as a mullet-mobile, redneck transportation and then you turn around and do it to other brands! "eh, it's just a Neon" or "Saturns are girl cars" are just a few examples. PISS POOR! Why can't you people lead by example for once? You get what you give, folks.

                      Edit: For a finger that failed to do its job...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RallyRed 98:
                        </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
                        i drive a V6 dodge ram
                        [img]tongue.gif[/img] only kidding, b </font>[/QUOTE]I see how it is. Ok I deserved it.
                        RedlineVSix

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                        • #13
                          ;) i drive a V6 camaro, a V6 chevy pickup, and a V6 land cruiser sometimes...

                          i want a V8 someday! [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] other than my IROC anyway

                          my IROC for sale, anybody want first dibs?

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                          • #14
                            Yeah I drive a 99 Saturn SC2, I'm not ashamed of it. Actually this is my 2nd Saturn. My first was a 95 SL1. These cars get great gas mileage, handles good, and I have never ever had a problem with. It is a slow car, but thats why I bought the Firebird for my wife. So we also have a fast car (well maybe a little faster). I am a loyal Saturn owner and I am glad to see Saturn is bringing back a sporty car. 2000 was the last year they made the SC. I may just go out and test drive one.
                            New Toy Red 94 Formula LT1
                            RT: .0006 60': 1.894 1/8 mile: 8.351 @ 84.89 1/4 mile: 12.974 @ 107.81
                            crashed Red 96 Camaro 3.8l: 14.91 @ 92.38
                            The ex wife's Black 98 Firebird 3.8l: 15.23 @ 88.12

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                            • #15
                              If you like it go for it, sounds like a decent car. As long as you keep the firebird, you should be able to drive anything, but you must keep the firebird [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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