What ever happened to Pedestrians first???

[F1GT]

This is like the 3rd time this past month that someone didn't want to stop as i was crossing the lane to go back to my car and acted like they wanted to run me over or start something. This is not a street but 2 lanes for cars to drive by for parking and leaving the mall.

Yesterday, while leaving Sears with my mom and GF. I started walking towards my car. Right outside sears is two lanes that lets cars go up and down all the isles of the parking lot. As I cross the 1st one. A Tahoe with Bling Bling and rap blasting thinks he is SO kewl and kept going. Fine, as I have not yet gone to the 2nd lane. Then as I entered the 2nd lane this punk Civic acted like I ran in frt of him out of no where and had to moderately hit the brakes stopping like half a car lenght away from me. So I walked towards his frt rt bumper, all the while doggin his get-out-of-my-way ***. Then he shouts out the friggin window and says "you got a problem". I turned around and said WTF. Then he goes on and said "I stopped!" and a shout of "Fock You!!" all while my mom and GF was there and my mom pushing me back. WTF???

A few weeks back I was at a theme park with friends and parked in a big parking lot with letters to tell you which section you parked at. So, of course, I started crossing this "lane" again and cars that were driving by were like 5-8mph. I walked towards those lanes and of course the first car kept driving and as I enterd the lane (sounds like I'm driving eh?) this 5.slow rustang comes rolling along and I waved my hand like thx to him and what does this punk *** do?? He rumbles towards my knees with his POS. His rt frt bumper like 6" from my legs like he wanted to run me over. WTF am I to do with all these kids, GF and friends around? Act like a crazy belligerent road-rage-even-when-not-in-car guy?

Everywhere I go, it's like you have to play "Frogger" to cross lanes and it's not even a real street. Many times cars see about to cross and they keep driving. Only when you step in harms way will the HIT the brakes, all the while making you wonder where you will land after impact.


On the other side of the fence:
I was driving my maro in San Francisco this one time on the rt turn lane and had to hit the brakes cuz it turned red. There was a lot of peeps and traffic was slow. So I stopped after the crosswalk. Now, the intersection to make a right is 3more car lengths longer than the other lanes and there was no left turn there. This is why I past it, cars going straigt had to stop earlier than the intersection to turn right because of the cross street on the left side because of the angle of the cross street. So anyways, this B1tch slaps my car!! I looked over to the left and see a whole load of people. So I scanned to find the culprit. Then as SHE almost finishes crossing the street gives me the finger behind her back. So I'm like WTF? Then she waits to cross the other street and I opened my window and shouted "F you b1tch" and she waved and smile and said HI. It's one thing if I did something wrong, but I did nothing wrong. It's hard for the right turn lane to make a right because when it's green to go pedestrians walk too. So there is a line to go rt.

GRRRRR :mad:

[95fbirdkid]

you could just wait for the cars to pass and save yourself from an ulcer

[F1GT]

Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
you could just wait for the cars to pass and save yourself from an ulcer

yes, clearly, vehicles have the right of way and I should wait five minutes for all the cars to go by just to go to my car. When all a driver has to do is depress the brake pedal all the while having a seat while they wait five seconds for me to cross :rolleyes:

[95fbirdkid]

I didnt say pedestrians dont have the right of way. but in a parking garage i doubt it would take 5 min for all the cars to pass, but if it did you'd have to wait to leave the parking spot anyway. Some things are just easier to get over than to get your panties in a knott about.

[RallyRed 98]

go to your city council meetings and support traffic chokers and raised crosswalks. they will know what you're talking about.

[F1GT]

Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
I didnt say pedestrians dont have the right of way. but in a parking garage i doubt it would take 5 min for all the cars to pass, but if it did you'd have to wait to leave the parking spot anyway. Some things are just easier to get over than to get your panties in a knott about.

Yeah but there are other exits I can go to. And what about when you just parked, like when I arrived at the theme park and a whole line of cars coming in. I'm sure you would just walk back to your car and wait til everyone parked and goes in. The point is that there is that no one is courteous nowadays. Like letting a few people walk by for 5 seconds is going to ruin your fun at a park when you are going 5mph anyways.
Thats not even why i'm mad, it's the fact he took advantage of the situation knowing that my mother was there to try and pick a fight.

[F1GT]

Originally posted by RallyRed 98:
go to your city council meetings and support traffic chokers and raised crosswalks. they will know what you're talking about.

excuse me, this is not a street we are talking about and he isn't speeding. And I would hope that the city council would know what a choker, neckdowns, knuckles, corner bulgers and raised crosswalks are. It's because of these discourteous drivers we see more speed bumps, raised crosswalks and now LED flashing crosswalk lights. Makes the neighborhood look ghetto and depreciate the value of the homes too.

[RallyRed 98]

they still work, no matter how ghetto your neighborhood becomes. i'm willing to be the shopping center you were at was flat was like an asphalt sea from the collector right up to the threshold of the store.

the difficulty with shopping centers is that they were not designed to give us a place to walk; they were designed to give cars a place to park. all those designs originate from the 40s when some futurists (the ones with power) thought that pedestrians would be obsolete in just a matter of time. hence, things were designed at an automobile's scale, which is fine when you're on a parkway or the interstate, but not so great when you overlay pedestrian and automobile thoroughfares. you can see the conflicts very clearly.

these days developers are getting back to walking intensive and pedestrian oriented shopping experiences. some towns now have guidelines that give pedestrians a bigger stake in the road. new urbanist and tradtionalist developers especially prefer shopping to be a pedestrian experience, so they locate central parking within 1/4-1/2 a mile from any shopping destination and completely eliminate drive aisles. the parking deck is a big up front expenditure, but they are also built to much higher specification and are denser in automobile population, requiring far less maintenance AND material.

i don't want to insult your intelligence any further (though it seems i already did), but traversing a parking lot is a give and take game despite how you and i think it should be.