getting a girl pregnant

[CamaroGirl]

Originally posted by ka50:


But yeh, I've been giving it lots of thought lately... my girl is on birth control shot, but she was supposed to take it 3 weeks ago and didn't... and now she's 3 days late on her period. I'm assuming 3 days isn't too bad...

If she has been using the BC shots for awhile, she will not have period...that is a side affect of the shot. You stop having your period and it takes a while for your body to go back to normal when you stop getting the shot.

[navyblue2000]

Originally posted by 95Batmobile:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by memphis_raines:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MustangEater8251:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skapimp:
Easy... punch her in the stomach as hard as you possibly can.. if that doesn't work, move to a knife.

Knife? a wire coat hanger woudl be more appropriate. </font>[/QUOTE]People who say sh*t like that are some cold-hearted sons of b*tches. I know I can be kinda crude at times, but this is a human life we're talking about here. </font>[/QUOTE]not to attack you..
But aren't you basically saying "trade one life for another"?
If a child will ruin the life somebody has set in front of them... how much better is having the child vs. aborting it?
Just wondering your opinion. </font>[/QUOTE]It's not the CHILD that ruins their life. It's the DECISION to do the deed that creates the child that "ruins" their life.
"Responsibility for your actions"

[95fbirdkid]

It's not the CHILD that ruins their life. It's the DECISION to do the deed that creates the child that "ruins" their life.
"Responsibility for your actions"

Just learn from your mistakes, you dont have to let it ruin your life. If your not ready, Abortion is a legal and legitamate option. There are alot of people who have moral objections to it, but heres how i think of it. Not only could haveing a child before your ready ruin your life, it could also ruin the life of the child. I would rather see some one have an abortion than raise a child as unfit parents.

[1DangerousV6]

i like to have myself a little pre-pregnancy agreement lol ...basically...when im in a relationship with a girl...once it gets serious...i like to discuss what we would do should it happen...make sure we're both in agreement and on the same page about what our decision would be

[ReodDai]

Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
i like to have myself a little pre-pregnancy agreement lol ...basically...when im in a relationship with a girl...once it gets serious...i like to discuss what we would do should it happen...make sure we're both in agreement and on the same page about what our decision would be

Check this out me and this guy have something in common.

[2000v6bird]

Originally posted by CAMAROWIDBASS:
I was in your boat about a yr ago i taught i knocked up a b itch but some drama came up and it turned up that when i was banging her she was like a month prego from her x b/f.

and i taught i taw a puddy cat.

[memphis_raines]

Originally posted by 95Batmobile:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by memphis_raines:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MustangEater8251:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skapimp:
Easy... punch her in the stomach as hard as you possibly can.. if that doesn't work, move to a knife.

Knife? a wire coat hanger woudl be more appropriate. </font>[/QUOTE]People who say sh*t like that are some cold-hearted sons of b*tches. I know I can be kinda crude at times, but this is a human life we're talking about here. </font>[/QUOTE]not to attack you..
But aren't you basically saying "trade one life for another"?
If a child will ruin the life somebody has set in front of them... how much better is having the child vs. aborting it?
Just wondering your opinion. </font>[/QUOTE]My opinion is this....you're not trading one life for another. It's not gonna literally kill you. I've been in that situation before, and at the time I was planning to move away to college. Her body rejected the child and she lost it, but if things had worked out different I would've made any sacrifice I had to in order to give my child the best life I could. Hell, my parents didn't plan on me being here either.

So for all these whiny bastards who are saying it ruins your life.....You know the risk of this when you do it.
If something like that happens, at least be man enough to take responsibility for your actions instead of being a little chickensh*t running to get an abortion. Abortion is nothing but legalized murder. In my opinion, if you abort a child, you are a murderer, plain and simple.

Reod says that an unborn child is nothing but a collection of cells. Reod, if you'll think about it, YOU'RE nothing but a collection of cells, does that mean it would be okay for someone to kill you? Hell no. Whoever did it would do time, just like it should be for those who would rather kill their child than accept responsibility for their actions. That's my opinion. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it.

[ October 06, 2004, 01:11 PM: Message edited by: memphis_raines ]

[token sebring]

Originally posted by pontiac nino:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 95Batmobile:

I would like to hear a ladies opinion on this but I don't think thats gonna happen. </font>[/QUOTE]check my earlier post on the second page... that's a woman's opinion ;)

[MustangEater8251]

Originally posted by memphis_raines:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MustangEater8251:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skapimp:
Easy... punch her in the stomach as hard as you possibly can.. if that doesn't work, move to a knife.

Knife? a wire coat hanger woudl be more appropriate. </font>[/QUOTE]People who say sh*t like that are some cold-hearted sons of b*tches. I know I can be kinda crude at times, but this is a human life we're talking about here. It's not like it's a damn stray puppy somebody dumped on you, this is a child we're talking about. I've been through this situation before, and she lost the child, and even though I wasn't ready for it, it really broke my heart. I didn't have any idea how I was gonna afford it, but I was willing to do whatever it took, and chances are I would have punched someone between the eyes for even mentioning aborting it. I am a staunch supporter of Eric Rudolph. He had the right idea, but he shoulda waited until no one was inside to bomb the clinics. To me, abortion clinics are no better than Hitler's concentration camps.....line 'em up and kill 'em, that's how they work. And most of the time it's because of some piece of sh*t that doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions.

But these guys who are saying punch her in the stomach or use a coat hanger......you need to stop and think...what if your mother had thought that way? Your stupid a$$es wouldn't be here to give him such worthless advice! </font>[/QUOTE]Calm down skippy, it was a bad attempt at tasteless humor... the Wire hanger thing I heard in a song by some racist, white trash redneck guy, awhile back at some party. I am not actually going to use a coat hanger. Jesus. Take a deep breath and think.

Not sure I coudl go through with my girl getting an abortion, but I think people have the right to make the descision for themself.

[Mister DNA]

I hate overdramatic optimism. There are precious few who can keep up with the drain it takes on your health to go to school full time and work full time all so one can act self-righteous in the face of someone else who is looking at something different.

These people are considered a$sholes. There is no glory in being an as$hole.

Sure you were one of the few who managed to make it while in the face of such crazy odds, but that's a lot of stress to put on yourself and it WILL show up in how you raise your child. You WILL end up with a Cats In The Cradle scenario unless you are the one in a billion who wins the metaphorical lottery in terms of life. There's just too many variables there to deal with.

The average overdramatic who thinks he's going to be a superdad by going to school full time and working full time will burn himself out and either drop out of school and never go back because of the time and financial committment this requires. You end up living a hard work life where you don't spend time with your kid anyway because you're working a 60 hour week just to make ends meet. And by the time seniority kicks in and gives you a 40 hour week and enough money, it's time for the kid to go to college. And the child hates you because you are never there to do daddy stuff because you're working all the time.

Best thing to do for the kid is to grow up and be pragmatic about it. There are practically no storybook endings where everything just works out. Stop dreaming because you'll just end up depressed when you don't win one of these endings. Those odds would be best spent on winning the lottery with one ticket in your life because you have more of a chance there.

There are thousands of wonderful couples out there who can't have kids because their bodies won't let them. These people would consider you and your mate heroes by giving them a healthy baby to love and care for. And they are probably more well to do than "you" are.

As a Utah citizen, I see ad spots from the LDS church a lot on TV. This church emphasizes family as the most important aspect of life. You see it in the way Mormons are when raised in a family which takes these values as seriously as they should be taken. But they understand that people aren't perfect and accidents happen. In one commercial, there's a 16 year old girl who speaks "I didn't give my baby up... I gave her more."

Truth. Absolute truth. Instead of having insurmountable odds in front of you, it's easier and more effective to take the "easy road" and have a couple who calls you a hero and have the life you brought into the world grow up with massive opportunity instead of adversity.

Abortion is considered by many to be murder. I believe the line is drawn at brain function when the child becomes self-aware with the id function. This happens when brain cells start forming high-function pathways sometime in the second trimester.

Is it not the equivalent of murder at some level to throw away a child's life by not being willing to give the child the opportunity to live up to his/her potential? You're an idiot if you disagree. How many children grew up in families who were so severely constrained that this future doctor, scientist, inventor, olympic athlete, firefighter, military general, President of the USA, etc they brought into the world was unable to have even the chance to discover their talent and go on to greatness?

Adoption by a family who has the finances to let this child go to a good school, participate in clubs and projects that build references and experience and then attend a good college will lay the framework for what could end up becoming the man or woman who cures cancer, creates interstellar travel, or any other amazing achievement. The odds? For those acts, not good, but at least the opportunity was given.


My wife is taking the pills. They are working, thankfully. But if we ended up with a kid on the way, we'd make the practical decision for our situation, I'm sure. With me going to college real soon with a MS-EE or EE as my target, we understand that I could not be a good daddy with that workload for five or six years. And with my learning disability, I have to work twice as hard on my studies as the average human being. A kid would be destructive to my overall goal of becoming an Electrical Engineer with an income that allows me to raise two or three beautiful children who have every opportunity to live up to their potential.

No limitations. Nothing standing in their way. That is my goal for my children and that should be every parent's goal without exception.

Idealism is bull**** and amounts to flirting with disaster. It's the same thing that keeps a battered woman going back to her abusive spouse and the same thing (failure of idealic beliefs)that caused Klebold and Harris to shoot up Columbine. And, as a very good example, it was Osama bin Ladin's idealic beliefs (kill the infidels if they won't convert to Islam) that caused 9-11. Think about it. Idealism has caused many more problems than it has ever solved.

Granted, the two latter examples I gave above are extreme, but they all started with the same thing. One or two people being idealists.

Hey, and what about Hitler? 'Nuff said there.

The responses I get from this post will let me know a lot more about the popular opinion on this matter. I hope those of you who respond to this will carefully consider what you say and speak with both your minds and your hearts. I would really like to hear what you have to say. I consider it to be a great achievement for the human race that we are able to connect and communicate like this. But anonymity, combined with an audience, tends to have interesting results when we are allowed to speak our minds without having to filter what we say.

[GrigoryRasputin]

The problem is - if abortions are made illegal - the reality will be coathanger wires in horribly dirty conditions.

[memphis_raines]

There sure will, because there will always be some sleazy sons of b*tches who would kill off their child just because they're too selfish to make any sacrifices to raise it. If people are so worried about the potential of making those sacrifices, they are obviously too immature to be having sex. But they're not gonna stop, so they shouldn't b*tch and whine when sh*t doesn't work out like they want it. If you do the crime, you should do the time, plain and simple.But God forbid, it might be an inconvenience or get in the way of someone's personal goals. So let's just commit murder instead. Real intellegent folks we're dealing with here.

[imported_admin]

Mister DNA--very good post.

I agree with just about everything you said with one exception.

Your rationale justifies adoption. That same rationale can be used to justify abortion. I also believe that a child should not be raised in an environment where that child's potential cannot be fulfilled because of their parents' inability to provide them with opportunities. In that regard, an aborted baby is better off than a child raised half-assed.

It is often said that "there are plenty of couples out there that would love to adopt". That's simply not true. There is a surplus of children up for adoption and a shortage of good homes. Tragic, but true. Its not unlike an animal shelter, only difference being unwanted children are not put down.

Memphis--you mentioned "if you did the crime, you have to do the time". Yeah... okay... who ends up suffering? The child! So you're saying the child should suffer because its parents were stupid? That's a ridiculous argument.

[95fbirdkid]

Originally posted by Stefan:
Mister DNA--very good post.

I agree with just about everything you said with one exception.

Your rationale justifies adoption. That same rationale can be used to justify abortion. I also believe that a child should not be raised in an environment where that child's potential cannot be fulfilled because of their parents' inability to provide them with opportunities. In that regard, an aborted baby is better off than a child raised half-assed.

It is often said that "there are plenty of couples out there that would love to adopt". That's simply not true. There is a surplus of children up for adoption and a shortage of good homes. Tragic, but true. Its not unlike an animal shelter, only difference being unwanted children are not put down.

Memphis--you mentioned "if you did the crime, you have to do the time". Yeah... okay... who ends up suffering? The child! So you're saying the child should suffer because its parents were stupid? That's a ridiculous argument.

exactly, I agree 100% with this post. It may be the parents fault, but the child is the one who ends up "doing the time"

[Pathogen]

Okay, I looked over this thread because I was concerned about the originaly poster. Hope everything works out for you ka50.

Now I feel the need to make a point. There is no shortage of children looking for good homes, true. There is however, a shortage of homes looking to adopt a child older than a newborn - so there are a lot of year-old+ kids looking for homes.

Regardless of anyones decision, just remember, a child should not suffer for the mistake of its parents.

And, as a side note, there are a lot of sick people on this board ... even if you're posts are meant to be light-hearted, there are a lot of things that are just flat distastful.

Thank you.
[/soapbox]