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  • #16
    Ouch, Cheney voted against the creation of the Dept of Education, a resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela, MLK Jr Holiday, Meals on Wheels, Head Start.... and he was in a very stark minority of nay votes on all of these - I didnt even know that!!

    ****. thats pretty damning

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    • #17
      you must have missed the post about it
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      • #18
        Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
        </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
        Cheney is a MUCH better debater than Bush.... and the attendence record was a very good (yet very off topic zing) However I know for a fact Edwards was drilled on this topic, I wonder what his retort will be.
        your right that cheney is better. bush gave up alot of chances to prov kerry wrong. tell me if im wrong but arent the rules that they arent suppose to talk to each other and i have noticed edwards speaking directly to cheney </font>[/QUOTE]They both set the rules and now theyre both breaking them... theyre stupid rules anyway - at least this is a real debate, unlike the last one.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
          Ouch, Cheney voted against the creation of the Dept of Education, a resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela, MLK Jr Holiday, Meals on Wheels, Head Start.... and he was in a very stark minority of nay votes on all of these - I didnt even know that!!

          ****. thats pretty damning
          very true
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          • #20
            Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
            Cheney is a MUCH better debater than Bush.... and the attendence record was a very good (yet very off topic zing) However I know for a fact Edwards was drilled on this topic, I wonder what his retort will be.
            your right that cheney is better. bush gave up alot of chances to prov kerry wrong. tell me if im wrong but arent the rules that they arent suppose to talk to each other and i have noticed edwards speaking directly to cheney </font>[/QUOTE]They both set the rules and now theyre both breaking them... theyre stupid rules anyway - at least this is a real debate, unlike the last one. </font>[/QUOTE]werd
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            • #21
              My honest critique of Edwards right now is that he is being too smug...
              He's also allowing Cheney to rattle him a bit... He needs to stand strong. However as this debate moves to domestic issues he should get MUCH stronger.
              Edwards does NOT have the foreign policy exp of Cheney - but Cheney doesnt ahve a leg to stand on with the domestic issues.

              Im impressed on how prepared Cheney is though.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
                </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
                </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
                Cheney is a MUCH better debater than Bush.... and the attendence record was a very good (yet very off topic zing) However I know for a fact Edwards was drilled on this topic, I wonder what his retort will be.
                your right that cheney is better. bush gave up alot of chances to prov kerry wrong. tell me if im wrong but arent the rules that they arent suppose to talk to each other and i have noticed edwards speaking directly to cheney </font>[/QUOTE]They both set the rules and now theyre both breaking them... theyre stupid rules anyway - at least this is a real debate, unlike the last one. </font>[/QUOTE]werd
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                • #23
                  It will work to Cheney's disadavantage for the National Security part to be first... he started strong and will finish weak.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
                    Cheney doesnt ahve a leg to stand on with the domestic issues.
                    we'll see, we'll see ;)
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                    • #25
                      I'm waiting for Cheney to loose it and headbutt Edwards.

                      Do it... DO IT!!! [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img]
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                      • #26
                        im just hoping that his preparedness stands strong through the whole thing. if he does good, this could make up for the lack of a president at the first debate
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by C.O.Jones:
                          I'm waiting for Cheney to loose it and headbutt Edwards.

                          Do it... DO IT!!! [img]graemlins/twak.gif[/img]
                          ahahaha thats awsome [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] DO IT DO IT!!!!
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                          • #28
                            edward did not just bring taxes into this when everyone knows about kerry's financial situation and how he pays low taxes. IRS IRS
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                            • #29
                              bam!!! cheney just shut him down with that loop hole and kerry voting for it or whatever. i thought edwards was doing real good until then
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                              • #30
                                I'm waiting for Cheney's pacemaker to explode around all the electronics of the debate.
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