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    This came to mind in another political post but I couldn't quite figure out how to tie it to the topic at hand. (Notice I am not hijacking another topic by posting this!)

    A few months ago there was a post saying "If you're a Republican you must believe..." and the same for Democrats. Though very one-sided and funny, some of them held true.

    The one that comes to mind is this:

    If you're a Democrat you must believe that corporations bring about oppression and governments bring about prosperity.
    The obvious reference here is that Republicans tend to favor free big business while Democrats tend to favor corporate regulation.

    While I am a corporate zombie working on my MBA and I'm all for free enterprise, a reality check needs to be applied here.

    Big business does not bring about prosperity. Big business brings about wasteful, slothlike bureaucracy. Doing business with huge multinational corporations like GM, IBM, Pfizer, or whoever is just like doing business with the feds. Their employees are morons, their operations are hideously inefficient, their return on assets is pitiful compared to smaller, more nimble, more actively managed companies.

    Big business takes humanity out of business. They treat customers like numbers. They make many, many, MANY mindless mistakes that any lesser company would go belly-up from and then just write off the wasted expenses. And, since corporations only get taxed on profits (revenues less all expenses, needed or unnecessary), they don't pay taxes on thier wasted ventures.

    Being for business is not the same as being for big business. I for one would not be able to handle working for one of those behemoth corporations. Many of my coworkers came from that sort of environment and they couldn't stand it either. When people talk about having a conference call to discuss what to talk about at the meeting that's planning for the big conference call they're not kidding.

    So yes, it is possible to be against "big business" while still being a businessman who favors small/medium business. So when diehard Republicans say "you either support American business or you're against it" they're oversimplifying.

  • #2
    I think anyone who thinks a certain way because of their party is a mindless fool.

    btw, I agree with you.
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    • #3
      Im a Democrat - and Im not against big business or "for" big government. However a free market can not exist in a state that holds social justice to be important.
      Big business as only multinational corporations are great - but its the loopholes, tax breaks, and corners they cut that make me pissed off at them.
      Governments must step into regulate in the environmental, labor, health areas where individuals and companies will not.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Skapimp:
        I think anyone who thinks a certain way because of their party is a mindless fool.

        btw, I agree with you.
        What about those people who actively work for the party to further the platform of the party?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
          </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skapimp:
          I think anyone who thinks a certain way because of their party is a mindless fool.

          btw, I agree with you.
          What about those people who actively work for the party to further the platform of the party? </font>[/QUOTE]? You can still think different than your party's ideology... You think Kerry or Bush thinks completely democratic/republican? No way, they all have their own platform themselves... and you should to. You should never say "I think ___ becuase I'm a republican.".. it should be "I'm a republican becuase I think ___."... if that makes any sense.

          Either way, I'm going to quit hijacking this thread.

          [ October 06, 2004, 08:51 PM: Message edited by: Skapimp ]
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          • #6
            I agree with a lot of Republican issues, I am possibly more conservative than a lot of people who vote GOP, but Im a Dem and I have decided to work for them b/c I cant stand how the GOP goes about their business - theyre sneaky, distort the truth and use their political positions to make money for their friends and pretend that its whats good for America.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
              theyre sneaky, distort the truth and use their political positions to make money for their friends and pretend that its whats good for America.
              What is every politician elected since 1776?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
                theyre sneaky, distort the truth and use their political positions to make money for their friends and pretend that its whats good for America.
                name a political party that doesn't do this
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                • #9
                  what? didn't you know that deregulation makes things better? don't you remember how terrific banking was in the late 80s after it was deregulated? and energy companies, too...

                  i suppose that was just the fat being cut, so to speak.

                  i feel like the essence of what you're saying is that efficiency is not a function of size... in fact, it could be said that efficiency is conversely related to size.

                  however, when you mention mistakes remember that big mistakes can be made by big companies, just like little mistakes can be made by little companies. a "big" or "little" mistake is in that way relative.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by C.O.Jones:
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by AaronG:
                      </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by C.O.Jones:
                      I'd like "Anal bum cover" for $800.
                      tom green performed this song on his tv show [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]I thought it was clever... :D ;)
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