Flag Burning...should it be illegal or legal

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by kinetic:
i love this country, and what the original patriots stood for, but apparently, patriotism isn't what it used to be.

fighting to keep your rights used to be patriotic, now it's considered terrorism?? seems like an agenda not involving the interest of society.

i'll admit, we have a LOT of priveliges and considerable wealth in this country, but the class system has to go; the haves get all the political clout, which deprives the rest of us from having a say in anything, and the have-nots get hung out to dry; I just wish many of the have-nots would stop being so gullible, and put their flags away for a minute to think about what's really going on.

err so me 3.4 and ~20 other members are now terrorist?

forgive me if I misunderstand.

[kinetic]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kinetic:
i love this country, and what the original patriots stood for, but apparently, patriotism isn't what it used to be.

fighting to keep your rights used to be patriotic, now it's considered terrorism?? seems like an agenda not involving the interest of society.

i'll admit, we have a LOT of priveliges and considerable wealth in this country, but the class system has to go; the haves get all the political clout, which deprives the rest of us from having a say in anything, and the have-nots get hung out to dry; I just wish many of the have-nots would stop being so gullible, and put their flags away for a minute to think about what's really going on.

err so me 3.4 and ~20 other members are now terrorist?

forgive me if I misunderstand. </font>[/QUOTE]how do you fight to keep your rights? do you protest vehemently?

you misunderstood...this is what seems to be the sentiment among the ultra-conservative right wing Republican admin. paranoia.

*note to admins* let me know if I'm getting out of line, so I can tone it down. I tend to get a bit passionate about socio-political discussions. [img]graemlins/banana.gif[/img]

[camaro_speedemon]

Originally posted by kinetic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaro_speedemon:
I'm pretty sure it's illegal right now.

If you hate this country so bad that you feel the need to burn the flag in protest, go live the fvck somewhere else.

actually, it IS legal (protected within the 1st Ammendment under the Speech Act).

loser's right; not everyone who does it hates this country.

you also have to realize something...some people ::cough::BUSH:cough:: will rally behind this "symbol" to get all the so-called patriotic brainwashed idiots to agree with their position, so they may quitely ***-rape us with bs legislation.

and speaking of such "patriotic" fanatics...I suppose they only buy american made goods, and don't support the chinese economy, and the massive exodus of employment opportunities overseas, yes?? and surely they don't support our "dependence" on foreign oil.

smells like hypocrisy, no better than the religious freaks. </font>[/QUOTE]So I guess being a patriot is being pro-bush now. That is the biggest load of bullsh!t I've heard in my life.

The flag is a symbol of our great nation. Burning it is disrespecting everyone that has died to make this country free. You might as well walk into Arlington cemetary and piss on everyones graves

As a matter of fact, I'm very much against sending jobs overseas. And I prefer to buy American if I can. And before you give me crap about buying a jap car, it was built in America.

[3.4 slow to go]

and ultra liberism, which is a mental disorder.

And congradulations for bringing this off topic

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by kinetic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kinetic:
i love this country, and what the original patriots stood for, but apparently, patriotism isn't what it used to be.

fighting to keep your rights used to be patriotic, now it's considered terrorism?? seems like an agenda not involving the interest of society.

i'll admit, we have a LOT of priveliges and considerable wealth in this country, but the class system has to go; the haves get all the political clout, which deprives the rest of us from having a say in anything, and the have-nots get hung out to dry; I just wish many of the have-nots would stop being so gullible, and put their flags away for a minute to think about what's really going on.

err so me 3.4 and ~20 other members are now terrorist?

forgive me if I misunderstand. </font>[/QUOTE]how do you fight to keep your rights? do you protest vehemently?

you misunderstood...this is what seems to be the sentiment among the ultra-conservative right wing Republican admin. paranoia.

*note to admins* let me know if I'm getting out of line, so I can tone it down. I tend to get a bit passionate about socio-political discussions. [img]graemlins/banana.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]The plane leaves every thursday from BWI to europe and middle east..... I think you'll fit in better there [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img]

[kinetic]

Originally posted by camaro_speedemon:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kinetic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaro_speedemon:
I'm pretty sure it's illegal right now.

If you hate this country so bad that you feel the need to burn the flag in protest, go live the fvck somewhere else.

actually, it IS legal (protected within the 1st Ammendment under the Speech Act).

loser's right; not everyone who does it hates this country.

you also have to realize something...some people ::cough::BUSH:cough:: will rally behind this "symbol" to get all the so-called patriotic brainwashed idiots to agree with their position, so they may quitely ***-rape us with bs legislation.

and speaking of such "patriotic" fanatics...I suppose they only buy american made goods, and don't support the chinese economy, and the massive exodus of employment opportunities overseas, yes?? and surely they don't support our "dependence" on foreign oil.

smells like hypocrisy, no better than the religious freaks. </font>[/QUOTE]So I guess being a patriot is being pro-bush now. That is the biggest load of bullsh!t I've heard in my life.
</font>[/QUOTE]I didn't say that, you did.

but I'd hardly call Bush a patriot either.

patriots don't necessarily wave flags; they become aware, and politically active to preserve rights.

and that's the beauty of this country...you can buy just about anything you want, made anywhere; I don't give a crap if you, or Joe Blow down the block buys a Toyota, Honda, or whatever....it's your choice; but don't be defensive, if you consider yourself a "die-hard patriot", because you're supporting a foreign corporation, regardless if the plant is stateside.

and 3.4, yeah ultra-liberalism may just be a mental disorder...so is ultra-conservativism. it's pure ignorance.

[ June 22, 2005, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: kinetic ]

[kinetic]

Originally posted by viper04af:
The plane leaves every thursday from BWI to europe and middle east..... I think you'll fit in better there [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img]

complacent, are we?

[Fbody3400]

Originally posted by kinetic:
newsflash to the dumbfounded flagwavers: the troops don't fight for your freedoms... ACLU does.

Yeah, but our freedoms would be pointless without our LIVES. They're over there fighting to make sure another terrorist attack doesnt kill your best friend, our you for that matter. I've been debating about joining the military when I'm 18.

Still some people take for granted how many freedoms we actually have here. Ever seen Hotel Rwanda? Good movie, shows what life is like in other parts of the world, where you get killed for walking down the street.

I say go to France with Johnny Depp and cry about it.

[3.4 slow to go]

Originally posted by kinetic:
WHen I grow up, I want to be just like 98v6

AS usually, ,anyone who disagrees w/you is an ultra conservative, which says....... not a lot realy.

[kinetic]

Originally posted by Fbody3400:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kinetic:
newsflash to the dumbfounded flagwavers: the troops don't fight for your freedoms... ACLU does.

Yeah, but our freedoms would be pointless without our LIVES. They're over there fighting to make sure another terrorist attack doesnt kill your best friend, our you for that matter. I've been debating about joining the military when I'm 18.

Still some people take for granted how many freedoms we actually have here. Ever seen Hotel Rwanda? Good movie, shows what life is like in other parts of the world, where you get killed for walking down the street.

I say go to France with Johnny Depp and cry about it. </font>[/QUOTE]oh yeah, so we have troops overseas to protect us from terrorist attacks over here?

lol

don't be so naïve.

i say dig yourself a bunker, camp out, and wait for the Iranians to fly over and bomb us.

[kinetic]

Originally posted by 3.4 slow to go:
AS usually, ,anyone who disagrees w/you is an ultra conservative, which says....... not a lot realy.

not sure where you deduce that from.

ever heard of 'skull and bones' ?

apparently not. whatever..

you say burning the flag should be illegal, I say keep it legal. viva la speech act.

i'm not going to change your views, and you won't change mine, so, peace.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by kinetic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fbody3400:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kinetic:
newsflash to the dumbfounded flagwavers: the troops don't fight for your freedoms... ACLU does.

Yeah, but our freedoms would be pointless without our LIVES. They're over there fighting to make sure another terrorist attack doesnt kill your best friend, our you for that matter. I've been debating about joining the military when I'm 18.

Still some people take for granted how many freedoms we actually have here. Ever seen Hotel Rwanda? Good movie, shows what life is like in other parts of the world, where you get killed for walking down the street.

I say go to France with Johnny Depp and cry about it. </font>[/QUOTE]oh yeah, so we have troops overseas to protect us from terrorist attacks over here?

lol

don't be so naïve.

i say dig yourself a bunker, camp out, and wait for the Iranians to fly over and bomb us. </font>[/QUOTE]err we have troops in the states too.... lol

[kinetic]

Originally posted by viper04af:
err we have troops in the states too.... lol

wow, no sh#t... really?

i think they're called, 'the national guard', right?

[Fbody3400]

Originally posted by kinetic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Fbody3400:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by kinetic:
newsflash to the dumbfounded flagwavers: the troops don't fight for your freedoms... ACLU does.

Yeah, but our freedoms would be pointless without our LIVES. They're over there fighting to make sure another terrorist attack doesnt kill your best friend, our you for that matter. I've been debating about joining the military when I'm 18.

Still some people take for granted how many freedoms we actually have here. Ever seen Hotel Rwanda? Good movie, shows what life is like in other parts of the world, where you get killed for walking down the street.

I say go to France with Johnny Depp and cry about it. </font>[/QUOTE]oh yeah, so we have troops overseas to protect us from terrorist attacks over here?

lol

don't be so naïve.

i say dig yourself a bunker, camp out, and wait for the Iranians to fly over and bomb us. </font>[/QUOTE]Dont be so ignorant to obvious facts. Where did the terrorists come from? Do you seriously believe that there would not of been more attacks after 9/11 without the actions we took?

Its not even a matter of terrorism now. Its a matter of half the country b!tching for us to help some poor third world country gain freedom from the Militia in rule, and the other half B!tching about us going over there. Its a lose lose situation for poor Bush. It'll be the same for the next Pres. to.

I think i'm gonna go smoke a rice burner to honor the Vet's of WWII.

[3.4 slow to go]

oh crap, another brain dead ACLU minion. there go more of your rights