understanding illegal aliens

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by skorpion317:
Sweden is the land of the Swedes. Switzerland is the land of the Swiss. You must have failed geography in school.

Thank you. If I was easily offended I would slap L32Projekt. SWEDEN and SWITZERLAND are two very different places!!! Sweden is a country the size of California in Northern Europe, was home of the Vikings back in the day, has parts above the Arctic Circle, is today known in the U.S. for Absolut Vodka, Saab, Volvo, Köenigsegg supercars, ABBA, and beautiful blonde women with big 'uns. Switzerland is home of Geneva, the U.N., Swiss Chocolate, and Swiss Army Knives. Switzerland is a small landlocked nation in central Europe at the peak of the Alps.

Big difference! Similarly, let's not confuse Alaska (AK) with Alabama (AL)! I know the two start with the same two letters but really now...

Thank you for studying Stefan's Geography 101. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ October 07, 2004, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: Stefan ]

[pontiac nino]

Question.....(please don't take offense)
Why don't you go back to Sweden? Don't like it?

[skorpion317]

Originally posted by L32Projekt:
And you must have failed to learn tact... prick. So I didn't pay attention, sue me. Why don't you try to stay on topic you worthless troll.

that was on topic. Stefan isn't Swiss.

[GrigoryRasputin]

I like Switzerland.

[Rhadamanthe]

Hi Iam back....is this appareance section?zaino did very well on my car

[Rhadamanthe]

BTW stefan who in the hell do you think you are?????

[Fredless]

Originally posted by Stefan:

Refugees need to stand on their feet and be patriots instead of running away and sucking up off the rich countries of the West.

Thats awesome. I agree 100%

[CAMAROWIDBASS]

Getting in the legit way? Ha would you be saying this if you made about $20.00 a week for back breaking work? No you would not you would want to seek that cash, and if by seeking the money it would mean coming to the US you would get it no matter what it takes.

You state if your illegal get the hell out. Lets think about that for a second, it would be complete chaos if that were to happen. That you would be the first one wanting all of them to come back.

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by CAMAROWIDBASS:
Getting in the legit way? Ha would you be saying this if you made about $20.00 a week for back breaking work? No you would not you would want to seek that cash, and if by seeking the money it would mean coming to the US you would get it no matter what it takes.

So its okay to be an ILLEGAL alien if you're poor? Its okay to BREAK THE LAW if you're poor? So now I guess the law only applies to us middle class folks?

Originally posted by CAMAROWIDBASS:
You state if your illegal get the hell out. Lets think about that for a second, it would be complete chaos if that were to happen. That you would be the first one wanting all of them to come back.

Um, please explain how this nation would turn to "complete chaos" if all illegal aliens would get the **** out of this great country.

Immigration laws exist for a reason. I know they are very slow to process and that's frustrating to us all (note part above about me waiting 1-2 years for permission to become a citizen even though I've lived here LEGALLY for 24 years) but that's how our cherished government works. So you're saying because the government is inefficient we should just break the law?

In every other post I say because our government is inefficient we should CHANGE the law, not break it.

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by Rhadamanthe:
BTW stefan who in the hell do you think you are?????

One who can ban your worthless ***. Who the hell do you think you are?

Go away.

[CAMAROWIDBASS]

Im saying if you had a family and you werent making enough to support them wouldnt you break the law and enter a country illegaly to better cloth/shelter/feed your family?

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by pontiac nino:
Question.....(please don't take offense)
Why don't you go back to Sweden? Don't like it?

No offense taken, lots of reasons. My family moved here in the 1970's because my father worked for Saab-Scania Aerospace and he was transferred here. His three sons happened to be raised here in the early 80's. We moved across the Atlantic several times but it turned out that we all ended up being more used to the American lifestyle than the European lifestyle. So we ended up sticking around.

In that regard we are not a family of stereotypical immigrants. When most Americans think of immigrants they think of poor, non-English speaking people who come here on a boat with nothing but the clothes on their backs. My parents came here with Master's degrees in engineering, fluent mastery of English, and solid careers that really benefitted American society. That's kind of where my bias comes from.

If you're an immigrant and you benefit the country you move to, by all means, stay.

But if you're an immigrant and you're a deadbeat and you contribute nothing to the country you're going to, you haven't pulled your weight and you should be sent back.

Me? Well, my parents earned their weight (they are today U.S. citizens), I almost have my MBA and work in a corporate office job in the nation's capital. I went to an American high school, American prom, American college, drive an American car, listen to American music, know American geography and history better than 99% of Americans do. People still say "wow!" in utter shock when I mention that I'm actually a foreigner. In my opinion I'm American enough to have "earned" my citizenship.

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by CAMAROWIDBASS:
Im saying if you had a family and you werent making enough to support them wouldnt you break the law and enter a country illegaly to better cloth/shelter/feed your family?

No. I'd do what I could within the law.

Poverty is no excuse for crime.

That same argument could be used to justify any crime.

"But your honor, I have a starving wife and three children! That's why I had to rob the bank!"

Its still a crime.

[ka50]

Due to the nature of immigration process into this country it is very hard to obtain a green card, unless you meet a specific criteria, such as finding a sponsor, getting married, winning lottery and few others.

Otherwise you're out of luck... do you think those people really want to be illegals? F*ck no! They want to be legal and have rights just like everyone else, but immigration legislation doesn't allow them, because they don't meet the criteria.

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by ka50:
Due to the nature of immigration process into this country it is very hard to obtain a green card, unless you meet a specific criteria, such as finding a sponsor, getting married, winning lottery and few others.

Otherwise you're out of luck... do you think those people really want to be illegals? F*ck no! They want to be legal and have rights just like everyone else, but immigration legislation doesn't allow them, because they don't meet the criteria.

That's just too bad...

If my family could do it legally, why can't everyone?

Answer: see my post above about benefiting American society vs. being a deadbeat. Nine times out of ten there's a REASON someone isn't granted legal status.