Relegalization

[95fbirdkid]

Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
drugs should be only for sick people. plain and simple. if even that. im leaning towards saying that they shouldnt get it but i dont know someone with that kind of problem so im kinda ignorant of their problem. i think if someone is doing drugs and gets caught, they should have to work on farms for the rest of their life like slaves. seems like a good plan to me cause they dont care about being slaves to drugs :\ **** them all

your thinking is quite flawed, not all drugs are addictive. I will give you coke and herion are quite addictive, which is part of the reason they should remain illegal. Weed, shrooms, LSD, for instance, are not addictive. Some may claim that weed is but its all metally, if you smoke every day for a year, of course you'll find it hard to stop, but its not like heroin where you puke for a week straight and are in pain b/c of withdrawl syptoms

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
if you smoke every day for a year, of course you'll find it hard to stop

Uhh, wouldn't that mean you're addicted?

[95fbirdkid]

the only reason you'll find it hard to stop is mental, your used to smokeing and its weird not to.

if you eat only vegitables for a year then yeat a big steak, it'll taste weird to you, doesnt mean your addicted to vegies

[Th3 RiCk]

There are already enough legal ways to get "high". Why legalize another substance in which its only purpose is to distort reality and inhibit simple decision making skills?

Why won't weed be legalized? Simple, it can't be regulated. Your neighborhood crack dealer is not going to be to happy giving up his portion of the profit.

People are going to argue this till the death that marijuana isn't a gateway drug. I know people who've smoked so much that they don't get the high anymore. They've moved on to bigger and better things. Sadly, it ruins friendships. Consider yourself lucky if you are one of the people who never did move on to other things.

If any of you know a true pot head then you'll be totally against the legalization of weed. Do we honestly need more of these people in the world?

[BLLDOGG]

Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
drugs should be only for sick people. plain and simple. if even that. im leaning towards saying that they shouldnt get it but i dont know someone with that kind of problem so im kinda ignorant of their problem. i think if someone is doing drugs and gets caught, they should have to work on farms for the rest of their life like slaves. seems like a good plan to me cause they dont care about being slaves to drugs :\ **** them all

your thinking is quite flawed, not all drugs are addictive. I will give you coke and herion are quite addictive, which is part of the reason they should remain illegal. Weed, shrooms, LSD, for instance, are not addictive. Some may claim that weed is but its all metally, if you smoke every day for a year, of course you'll find it hard to stop, but its not like heroin where you puke for a week straight and are in pain b/c of withdrawl syptoms </font>[/QUOTE]i dont care if it is addictive or not. its an illegal drug for a reason. alcohol and cigerettes should go too

[T-Punk]

yeah because prohibition worked so well the first time :rolleyes: . i dont know if you read the first post here but it explains the reasoning i personally have as to why it should be leagal. Most of all because the Government should not tell you what you can and can not do to your own body in your home. if you want some more good info on this subject visit www.lp.org . They have very similar veiws to mine only they dont think it should be taxed and other small differences.

[CAMAROWIDBASS]

I think weed should be legalized but should fall under the same category that liquor falls under only for sale to 21+ and such.

i dont understand something though if weed, lsd and yayo mess you up and so does beer, why isnt beer illegal too?

I would think anything that gets you high/drunk should be illegal.

[95fbirdkid]

Originally posted by Th3 RiCk:
There are already enough legal ways to get "high". Why legalize another substance in which its only purpose is to distort reality and inhibit simple decision making skills?

Why won't weed be legalized? Simple, it can't be regulated. Your neighborhood crack dealer is not going to be to happy giving up his portion of the profit.

People are going to argue this till the death that marijuana isn't a gateway drug. I know people who've smoked so much that they don't get the high anymore. They've moved on to bigger and better things. Sadly, it ruins friendships. Consider yourself lucky if you are one of the people who never did move on to other things.

If any of you know a true pot head then you'll be totally against the legalization of weed. Do we honestly need more of these people in the world?

dude, i used to be a "true pot head" we're talking about smokeing 3 times a day every day. I did try other things, i've done coke, shrooms, and all that (not heroin)

I know friends that have been addicted to harder things. But it isnt the weed that got me/them there. Its more the people you start associating w/ that puts you around other drugs, if weed was legal and you didnt have to go to your neighbor hood dealer who also has a ounce of coke sitting on his coffee table, not nearly as many people would do harder things.

The whole "he didnt get high off weed anymore" is BS. You may grow a tollerance but i smoked like a chimney for 3 years and still got high every time. And even if you did stop getting the effect of weed you wouldnt move to coke or heroin or anything else b/c the feeling you get is completely different than weed.

Saying weed is a gateway drug b/c alot of heroin addicts smoked weed first is like saying pizza is a gateway food b/c alot of crack heads have ate pizza. Now if every person who smoked weed moved on to other things, then you would have an arguement.

Saying someone move to coke b/c weed didnt get them high anymore is like saying they started taking caffine pills b/c sleeping pills didnt help them sleep anymore.

I'm going to be a police officer, and however much I want to see weed legalized, I will enforce the law. I know alot of cops that used to smoke, or have friends that smoke, or are just pro-legalization period. It doesnt effect their job.


edit - and if you let someone smoking pot ruin your friendship your either a crappy friend or they are inconciderate. I had tons of friends who didnt smoke, and you know what? a good friend will not leave you if you smoke weed, aslong as your conciderate about it. I respected the fact that they didnt smoke and didnt smoke around them. So if your friends werent respectfull of that thats fine, but if you left them just b/c they chose to smoke, then **** you your an ******* friend

[ November 17, 2004, 09:04 PM: Message edited by: 95fbirdkid ]

[T-Punk]

and it shouldn't. i agree if you break the law you break the law and should have to pay for it even if you think it is right. I think this will become a real issue in our lifetime and i think at least pot will be legal. i personally dont like it but it should be legal.

[chas]

an issue on the plus side for legalization would be limiting the spread of certain diseases related to sharing of needles. hiv and hepatitis could be greatly curtailed in the drug using (and people who love them) population since a needle exchange program wouldnt be 'controversial'.

as for deciding which should be kept illegal. that's not practical. some people are addicted on the first use and some are not. not everyone is affected the same way. alcohol addiction probably costs society (if you discount the funding given to the dea) more than cocaine/heroin addiction. so a cost basis is out. so, the only logical way to determine if a drug is 'hard' (and therefore illegal) might be a popular vote.

[95fbirdkid]

hard drugs are usually determind by how much the damage the body. Heroin and coke are damaging even if your not addictive. Shrooms and weed have both been proven in scientific tests and studys to not be damaging in the long term. w/ weed you will loose short term memory if you smoke alot, but once you stop smoking for a while, your short term memory comes back

[MrCoffee]

I'm not statistician, but I know for a fact that most of the kids in college today are engaging in illegal drug activities. Which leads me to believe that this has been the way for years.
so my point is that anyone who went to college has been around the type of drugs most commonly used. Now, I know my parents dont get high these days, but I'm sure they at least tried it. However they stopped for whatever reasons.
I can only assume this is the case for the majority of young adults and middle aged parents who once attended college.
so bottom line, they used to, they dont anymore. It just one of those phases that everyone goes through.
in extreme cases you have the addicts, but on the other side you have the people that never touched the stuff (ie mormons and bill clinton with his whole "I never inhaled" crap).

[BLLDOGG]

riiiiiiight.......people who do drugs dont leave their home :rolleyes:

[MrCoffee]

all of the powdered drugs like coke, heroin, x have been proven to give brain damage over long time use.
mild drugs like weed, shrooms, and salvia (FYI: still legal right now) havent been proven to affect the brain, but they do other bodily harm.

I'm a kid, I just turned 21. and I'm in college. I do things that in a few years I'll look back on and maybe wish I hadnt. but its life. the governments main purpose is to protect. if they let us have any chemical we wanted just because we like the effects for a few min, they're not doing they're job.

I honestly do not see why weed isnt legal, but the fact that it is, is enough for me. I've seen all the montel and the high times, and online reports that weed has its medicinal purposes. I've heard about the 5 people in the US that legally get it. I know all this. but the fact still remains that its illegal for me to get and smoke it.

just like tobacco under age 18. just like alcohol under age 21. lets argue all that crap too, but the fact still remains that its illegal.

[ka50]

It puzzles me how limited some people are. Just because something is illegal, it doesn't necessarily make it wrong. At one point it was legal! What a surprise.

You fail to realize that laws are made by people. So, therefore if some joe in congress thinks certain substance should be illegal, it does not automatically mean that everyone thinks the same way. If it was different joe in congress, the law might not have passed in the first place.

The bottom line is: don't force your own beliefs on someone through laws. Let's say, for example, that I think all cars are manace to society. All cars should be outlawed!!! It would be silly to have the law that would prohibit YOU from using a car. Same thing with light drugs, such as extacy, weed and few others. There are universal things such as murder, theft, crimes against children, vandalism, etc, that HURT people. They should be illegal. Smoking weed is VICTIMLESS CRIME.

It is however shaky subject, because we still have to figure out what kind of psychological, not only physiological impact drugs do. They might be doing psychological harm to users that is beyond their direct awareness. Psychidelic drugs are known to change people. Sometimes for better, sometimes for worse, but the effects are irreversible.