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  • #31
    Question....did they say what flight # it was that hit the Pentagon? And whoever departed that flight (AA, Delta, etc), have they said that there were passengers aboard? I forget what movie it was, think about it. If we hear something on TV that happened miles away in which we have no connection to the incident, then we take it in as factual. If the media said that a ship sunk in the ocean (not saying what ship or who was aboard or whatnot), then everyone would feel bad for the people on the ship (even though they don't know that there was anyone on that ship). So, if the media said that a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon, how do we know if anyone was aboard or which plane it was, etc.

    Sorry if you don't follow...it's 1am and I'm BUZZED. Plus, I haven't done any research to see if they mentioned what flight #, who was on board, etc. This is just what came to my head.

    And like someone else said, who cares what hit it, the fact is, it was an attack.
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    • #32
      so lets say it was a missile. in fact, a bunker buster something designed to penetrate a hardened building (and trust me, the pentagon is hardened. interior walls are 3ft+ reinforced concrete). the missile would penetrate the exterior wall and explode inside the building. this should blow out the windows from the adjacent rooms and significant chunk of the wall. we dont see that in the video. none of the shots looks like something exploding from within.

      planes are no designed to be crashed head on into stationary objects. they have no strength in that direction. they collapse/fold. further a plane is mostly empty space.

      looking at the pictures it looks like there was an intense fire. missiles dont carry tons of fuel and concrete doesnt burn. what burned for those hours? the grass?

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      • #33
        bunker buster [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
        for on its a BOMB it has to be droped, that video show it was low to the ground

        and if it was a cruse missle they travle at like mach 3-5 only thing there gogin to hear is the sonic boom and the explions.

        also bunker busters are made to go like 20 feet or more under the ground (past steal and concret) then exploled so i think there would be more of a crater.....

        i also have a feeling if the Admin wasn't for this tread it would have been locked a long time ago.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by viper04af:
          bunker buster [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
          for on its a BOMB it has to be droped, that video show it was low to the ground

          and if it was a cruse missle they travle at like mach 3-5 only thing there gogin to hear is the sonic boom and the explions.

          also bunker busters are made to go like 20 feet or more under the ground (past steal and concret) then exploled so i think there would be more of a crater.....
          This could easily have been a GBU-15 2000 pounder dropped by an F-15 flying out of Andrews. And cruise missiles are subsonic, not supersonic. They do NOT fly at mach 3-5.

          A possibility exists that the government knew about this hijacking long before the Pentagon blast. Perhaps the plane was successfully shot down over West Virginia or somewhere out in the boonies. Then, fearing public outrage over shooting down our own plane, they drop ONE BOMB or fire ONE MISSILE at the target to say "look, the plane did crash". One bomb/missile caused that damage to the Pentagon... a fully-loaded 757 would have been terribly worse. It would have been the choice for the lesser of two evils.

          This part is kind of out there but people are asking the question "well if that wasn't a 757, what happened to that flight?". That's a more difficult question.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Stefan:
            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
            bunker buster [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
            for on its a BOMB it has to be droped, that video show it was low to the ground

            and if it was a cruse missle they travle at like mach 3-5 only thing there gogin to hear is the sonic boom and the explions.

            also bunker busters are made to go like 20 feet or more under the ground (past steal and concret) then exploled so i think there would be more of a crater.....
            This could easily have been a GBU-15 2000 pounder dropped by an F-15 flying out of Andrews. And cruise missiles are subsonic, not supersonic. They do NOT fly at mach 3-5.

            A possibility exists that the government knew about this hijacking long before the Pentagon blast. Perhaps the plane was successfully shot down over West Virginia or somewhere out in the boonies. Then, fearing public outrage over shooting down our own plane, they drop ONE BOMB or fire ONE MISSILE at the target to say "look, the plane did crash". One bomb/missile caused that damage to the Pentagon... a fully-loaded 757 would have been terribly worse. It would have been the choice for the lesser of two evils.

            This part is kind of out there but people are asking the question "well if that wasn't a 757, what happened to that flight?". That's a more difficult question.
            </font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

            i think you missed the part about the 3 foot thick walls, i work with a guy that was in the communications room at the time, there no way in hell that was a missle or bomb, yes it was loud but nowere near the precustion of a american or fogien projectile

            trus me if a POS IRAQI mortor can hit 200 yards from my tent and knock me on my ***, and i can tell diff bettween american and other explosions there no way that was a bomb/missle look at it thats a fire ball, bombs do much more then a long burning fireball.

            hell the camara didn't even shake
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Stefan:

              A possibility exists that the government knew about this hijacking long before the Pentagon blast. Perhaps the plane was successfully shot down over West Virginia or somewhere out in the boonies. Then, fearing public outrage over shooting down our own plane, they drop ONE BOMB or fire ONE MISSILE at the target to say "look, the plane did crash". One bomb/missile caused that damage to the Pentagon... a fully-loaded 757 would have been terribly worse. It would have been the choice for the lesser of two evils.

              This part is kind of out there but people are asking the question "well if that wasn't a 757, what happened to that flight?". That's a more difficult question.
              First of all, you should know that no matter how far out in the boonies there is always some redneck who saw something and is willing to talk about it on camera. Do you really think its possible to shoot down an airliner over land and clean up the mess without anyone noticing... thats rediculous.

              I doubt anyone even would have the balls to make the call to launch a missle on the pentagon right after shooting down a commercial airliner. If we are gonna lie, why not just say the terrorists blew up the plane in the air? That would be infinately easier to cover up. Instead we are gonna shoot a missle into one of our own buildings? Come on now.

              Anything is technically possible, but very few of these "theories" are actually plausible. Again I wasnt aware that the V6 f-body board was the mecca for experts on damage assesement of buildings hit by projectiles.

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              • #37
                Again, not one of us is claiming to be an expert on ballistics or damage assessment.

                I have been on a plane that size before, and I cannot see how so little damage could have been caused.

                What about the lack of debris? What about fire damage. Maybe it's propaganda, but look at that video. It clearly shows a book stand with a book intact less than two feet away from the blast area.

                I never posted this to get people's panties in a twist, and if an admin thinks this is happen, by all means, please lock this thread, but know that was not my original intent. I merely found this to be an interesting video; propaganda or not.
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                • #38
                  It was the aliens! They stole bubba and took him up in their spaceship and made him do wierd things to sheep! Then fed him beans for nine weeks and harnested the power of his methane emissions to create a devistating laser that was fired at the pentagon, to send our govement a warning. "Stop sending annoying messages into space in hopes we will respond back"
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                  • #39
                    sorry to be off topic, but viper...I love that avatar. I've seen that video before and its hilarious!
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by 98goldbird:
                      sorry to be off topic, but viper...I love that avatar. I've seen that video before and its hilarious!
                      i stole it from someone on projectcamaro web site i was rolling when i seen it
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                      • #41
                        Hmmm. Cant wait for this one to come out on 'Myth Busters' I can see them constructing a miniature steel framed glass clad tower and a steel reinforced concrete box and sling-shot a moltov coctail at each. My bet is that the reinforced concrete box isnt going to sustain the same amount of damage.
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                        • #42
                          this is the f-ing dumbest thread ever .... nuff said. And on the internet there is HIGH competition for this title.
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                          • #43
                            http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

                            what are all you nerds who stay home and think about this all the time and believe you'll be the one to discover the worlds next biggest secret going to do now? :(

                            ... :rolleyes:

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by hawgs:
                              http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

                              what are all you nerds who stay home and think about this all the time and believe you'll be the one to discover the worlds next biggest secret going to do now? :(

                              ... :rolleyes:
                              aliens and methane emissions my friend... aliens and methane emissions...

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                              • #45
                                I once sat on a toilet & it flushed. sounds like a gov't coverup to me.

                                How's this for creepy 11 Sep information: Huge coverup invented to make going to airports and major sporting events more a a hassel. It's still nice to know that events HAVEN'T been forgotten, mostly. But then this is the new America, w/shortened attention spans to go with.
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