Creepy 9/11 Information Video

[Blazing_Firebird]

Do all Republicans put words in people's mouths?

If you're not braindead, read here:

I never claimed to discover this, only that I thought it was amusing. Holy Christ, this is unbelievable.

[hawgs]

Originally posted by Blazing_Firebird:
Do all Republicans put words in people's mouths?

If you're not braindead, read here:

I never claimed to discover this, only that I thought it was amusing. Holy Christ, this is unbelievable.

Who said you did claim to discovering it? Who is putting words in people's mouths? Who is the Republican that is doing this and when did they say what political affiliation they had?

[Denis]

So where is Flight 93?

Aerial view

Ground level

Another ground level

Seems to me that a plane that big that crashes into solid ground should leave a lot more debris around. Where did it go?
:rolleyes:

[chas]

to answer these questions one merely needs to apply occam's razor.

lets say we did manage to shoot down flight 77 (btw, they could not scramble a jet from aafb in time it would have needed to be in the air already). but lets say they had someone on the roof of the pentagon with a missle launcher. they shoot down the plane. ok, now they need a cover up. which is smarter? tell the public -- stupid terrorists couldnt fly a complicated plane like a 757 and crashed into the ground or drop a bomb on the pentagon causing more loss of life?

as for flight 93, again which is the simplest answer? we scrambled a jet to shoot it down thus no debris or the passengers managed to overwhelm the hijackers (they did outnumber them) but then were unable to fly the plane due to lack of training and crashed at 200+ mph into the ground? (a third theory is that the hijackers just fly into the ground themselves in at attempt to keep control of the plane. its not likely we will know the truth unless we hear the black box recordings).

as for people claiming it "sounded like a missile" how many people have heard a missile?

and for the record, i know someone who witnessed the plane flying into the pentagon from I-395. he was writing a ticket at the time. assuming of course, he isnt part of the conspiracy.

[maxcamaro]

here is a list of victims

http://www.september11victims.com/se...ctims_list.htm

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77,

from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard

what the hell kinda 757 only carries 64 people?

[HAZ-Matt]

There is no crater.

The building was penetrated through 5 concentric rings, but there was not too much damage laterally (relatively speaking). This leads me to believe most of the structural damage was the result of an object with high kinetic energy striking the building. Although, if you look at the burn patterns, there were some large spots laterally that may have resulted from fuel stored in the wings being propelled into the building and ignited.

Bombs generally leave craters... (technically any general purpose warhead will do that even if it is fitted to a missile). Why was there nno penetration below ground level?

Missiles with shaped charges (antitank missiles mostly) usually aren't powerful enough to punch through five rings of the Pentagon. AAM's are too fast and too wimpy to have caused that damage.

Aircraft do not have crumple zones. Aircraft are not meant to be flown into things. Aircraft are meant to be rigid and flexible in very specific dimensions. Commercial airliners carry a lot of aviation fuel. It is unlikely that you will find too much wreckage if the aircraft crashes into a hardened object, breaks apart, and then burns. A 757 is much smaller than a 747.

There was a thread on camaroz28 about this last week. A number of the people on that board live in the DC area and reported, or knew people that reported, seeing a 757 sized aircraft fly over and hit the building.

[camarov62003]

all i have to say is everyone who thinks this is some kind of coverup....you are ignorant for believing that.

[maxcamaro]

Originally posted by camarov62003:
all i have to say is everyone who thinks this is some kind of coverup....you are ignorant for believing that.

well i never thought anything about it untill i read this post...i mean where was all the airplane debris?

[Blazing_Firebird]

I don't know what I believe. To me, it's just one more thing to think about.

I never really questioned anything or had a different thought until I saw this.

I'm not saying its the most accurate "documentary", if you can call it that, ever composed, but I think it is interesting.

It's just odd, that's all. Not saying I believe one thing or another, but...weird.

[ReodDai]

Originally posted by camarov62003:
all i have to say is everyone who thinks this is some kind of coverup....you are ignorant for believing that.

Actually ignorance would be the person who doesn't have an open mind , think about the possibility, ask questions, and decide upon it themselves. Kinda like yourself ;)

[ September 07, 2004, 10:14 PM: Message edited by: ReodDai ]

[Infernal]

That's right. It wasn't a 757. It was a missile launched by an American FA-18. You see, there really is no Al-Queida. It's all part of a giant propaganda campaign run by Bush and VRWC (Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy), a secret shadow government that holds the real power in our nation.

The ultimate goal is to frighten the nation's citizenship so completely that we allow the government to strip our constitutionally guaranteed rights, one by one, like layers of an onion. One after another, the layers will peel back, to reveal a rotten core called Theocratic Dictatorship.

First, they'll lower your taxes to record levels so that you'll have more money to spend on so-called "entertainment" items: movies, cable television, music, and the like. They want you in front of the television, pacified, because media-brainwashed vegetables are much more likely to submit instead of revolting, when the time comes.

Next, they'll fund education at record levels. On the surface this looks great, but "don't believe the hype." Increased education funding puts more money into the hands of VRWC-trained brainwashing agents (read: teachers) who successfully strip our nation's youth of the creativity, drive, and political awareness necessary to detect and usurp their evil plans. They turn our children into silly putty.

Finally, they'll increase funding for prescription drugs for our nation's senior citizens. Again, this looks great on the surface, but it serves them well, because as everyone knows those big pharmaceutical companies are in bed with the GOP. My my, isn't it the Federal Government that determines which drugs will be approved for consumption and which won't? How convenient. Big pharmaceuticals rake in the billions while pushing their FDA approved, mind numbing concoctions-in-a-bottle to our citizenship, turning us to the mental equivalent of a jellyfish adrift in the endless tide.

Of course it wasn't a 757. Wake up. [img]graemlins/stickpoke.gif[/img]

EDIT:

Damn avatar.

[ September 07, 2004, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: Infernal ]

[ReodDai]

Infernal that was awesome lol

[RedFrk13]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camarov62003:
all i have to say is everyone who thinks this is some kind of coverup....you are ignorant for believing that.

Actually ignorance would be the person who doesn't have an open mind , think about the possibility, ask questions, and decide upon it themselves. Kinda like yourself ;) </font>[/QUOTE]ReodDai, that is exactly what I was thinking.

[camarov62003]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camarov62003:
all i have to say is everyone who thinks this is some kind of coverup....you are ignorant for believing that.

Actually ignorance would be the person who doesn't have an open mind , think about the possibility, ask questions, and decide upon it themselves. Kinda like yourself ;) </font>[/QUOTE]ok then y dont u tell me WHY THE HELL would we bomb ourselves?? do u really think it was a cover up? if it wasnt a plane then where did that plane go and the people on it?

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

for some resaon i think poeple are thinking the 757 is bigger then a 747, however this is not that case the 747 is like 2x the size

757
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/757...technical.html

747
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/747...technical.html

[ September 08, 2004, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: viper04af ]