INTENSE's lies.... must read

[malice10985]

I don't understand why scott has not stood up for himself at all? He is getting ripped apart by hundreds of people, and losing lots of money, why doen't he defend the craftsmanship of his products; or his moral character?

It seems to me that intense will go down in flames, or a lawsuit, if scott doesn't post up a rebuttle. Public message boards are the way that small niche companies like his survive. If I weren't a member of some 3800 boards, I would never know about intense.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by malice10985:
I don't understand why scott has not stood up for himself at all? He is getting ripped apart by hundreds of people, and losing lots of money, why doen't he defend the craftsmanship of his products; or his moral character?

It seems to me that intense will go down in flames, or a lawsuit, if scott doesn't post up a rebuttle. Public message boards are the way that small niche companies like his survive. If I weren't a member of some 3800 boards, I would never know about intense.

i think club GP banned him and the instess peeps cause big jeff is under a new name

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by malice10985:
I don't understand why scott has not stood up for himself at all? He is getting ripped apart by hundreds of people, and losing lots of money, why doen't he defend the craftsmanship of his products; or his moral character?

It seems to me that intense will go down in flames, or a lawsuit, if scott doesn't post up a rebuttle. Public message boards are the way that small niche companies like his survive. If I weren't a member of some 3800 boards, I would never know about intense.

People for years have been complaining about Scott's questionable practices. Finally, now it has caught up with him. Scott has no rebuttle b/c its true. He has no moral character. We, at DHP, found this out years ago.

[stuffy236]

Scott was not banned from Clubgp. They created their own forum (3800tech.com). They voluntarily left and have not returned to the forum. Im assuming scott wouldnt allow them to post on clubgp because it would look bad for their forum. Upon creation of that forum, they boasted they were going to have the most accurate 1/4 list of grand prixs. Well when the left, they told the admins to take down their times in the clubgp listing since they were no longer members. Now they could really claim they had the most accurate since they included themselves and told the admins to take theirs down. Also, theyve had blatantly innacurate statistics on their website. You guys might remember it used to say that "most of the top 10 fastest GPs have INTENSE parts..." blah blah blah. they had a few of these statistics that were not even backed up in their own 1/4 mile listings.

They were the first ones to release a PCM for the 04 Grand Prixes, but since they didnt do a full R&D and just slapped a PCM together, they missed an important timing table. They set their A/F ratio to 1.0 mv. When they did that, they hit a hidden timing table for when there is a cold start up. When the PCM is as rich as that, it thinks it on a cold start up and adds 4-5 more degrees of timing. They were advertising 4* more of timing, but were actually getting 9*. Needless to say, many 04 guys popped pistons from the added timing even though they had all the mods INTENSE said they should have to run their PCMs. When they wanted answers, INTENSE would not go on clubgp where they all were at and answer their questions. They tried emailing them, and one guy got "im sorry to hear that" from scott. He wouldnt own up to it and didnt do anything about it. These are the same PCMs on the market today.

The reason Big Jeff posts now is because he is no longer an owner of INTENSE. He quit in February. Also, Chris Green from Ohio quit a few weeks ago and is also why he now posts on Clubgp.

Scott's answer to the LSD problem is for them to take it off their cars (most of these daily drivers) ship it to them at everyone's expense and he will ship a new one back that supposedly "fixes the problems." However, he wont address the issue of the bronze pads he uses that wear fast and creates a paste in the transmission from the flakes that are produced from the exesive pad wear.

Scott is going to have to dig deep to fix everything and pray that he doesnt get sued (although im willing to bet he will be) and hope he can come out of this with even a shread of dignity left. I would really hate to be him right now.

[98Camaro3.8]

Even after all of this, I am amazed at how many people still recommend buying from Intense. :(

[T-Punk]

Hmm, i dont think i will be using any intense parts in the future. Zoomer at zzp seems like a much better guy to deal with, i'll go with him.

[shenanigans]

Damn am I the only one who doesn't want a GTP after reading this... some of those guys have spent more then like my whole car and their **** is broken.

[12secondv6]

ZZP is VERY good.

He has taken ALOT of time to assist me for.... up coming mods.

[1998silverbird]

Like I said before I have had no problems with Intense except for there PCM's in which Scott and Cris refuned my money each time.. I will buy from them again if I need too in the future..

[L32Projekt]

Originally posted by shenanigans:
Damn am I the only one who doesn't want a GTP after reading this... some of those guys have spent more then like my whole car and their **** is broken.

Let me defend the GTP's... They aren't bad cars, but since they use the Eaton M90 (unless the car is heavily modified) and that form of supercharging creates so much heat, the engine doesn't take kindly to poorly designed products that mess with timing/fueling/etc.

Man, glad I'm too poor to purchase parts. I'd probably have a few Intense products on my Regal right now. I haven't read the thread on clubgp.com because it's blocked at work, but it doesn't sound good.

Jerriko, as for a previous argument that we had about you racing a GTP with an Intense PCM that you were talking smack about, I'm amazed you had that much restraint in that thread knowing what you did. Gotta give you props on that!

[Jerriko]

Originally posted by L32Projekt:


Jerriko, as for a previous argument that we had about you racing a GTP with an Intense PCM that you were talking smack about, I'm amazed you had that much restraint in that thread knowing what you did. Gotta give you props on that!

Thanks.

[shenanigans]

Originally posted by L32Projekt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by shenanigans:
Damn am I the only one who doesn't want a GTP after reading this... some of those guys have spent more then like my whole car and their **** is broken.

Let me defend the GTP's... They aren't bad cars, but since they use the Eaton M90 (unless the car is heavily modified) and that form of supercharging creates so much heat, the engine doesn't take kindly to poorly designed products that mess with timing/fueling/etc.

Man, glad I'm too poor to purchase parts. I'd probably have a few Intense products on my Regal right now. I haven't read the thread on clubgp.com because it's blocked at work, but it doesn't sound good.
</font>[/QUOTE]I know they are good cars but If I had one, I would want one in the low 13s, but not looking to spend that kinda money worrying about busted parts.

[kamarozrule]

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/tm.as...mode=1&smode=1

[L32Projekt]

Originally posted by shenanigans:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by L32Projekt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by shenanigans:
Damn am I the only one who doesn't want a GTP after reading this... some of those guys have spent more then like my whole car and their **** is broken.

Let me defend the GTP's... They aren't bad cars, but since they use the Eaton M90 (unless the car is heavily modified) and that form of supercharging creates so much heat, the engine doesn't take kindly to poorly designed products that mess with timing/fueling/etc.

Man, glad I'm too poor to purchase parts. I'd probably have a few Intense products on my Regal right now. I haven't read the thread on clubgp.com because it's blocked at work, but it doesn't sound good.
</font>[/QUOTE]I know they are good cars but If I had one, I would want one in the low 13s, but not looking to spend that kinda money worrying about busted parts. </font>[/QUOTE]True 'dat. I just want my GS in the 13's... period. I don't care if it's a 13.999, just want a 13 second car! ;) Shouldn't be hard to get there, just need some cash. I feel like a smack addict, I'd do anything for 13's man... anything... LOL.