The school siege in Russia

[skorpion317]

I'm sure everyone's read about this by now, i just wanted to get some opinions.

Here's my opinion:

It's totally fu*ked up that these terrorists would raid a school full of kids and take them hostage. Even worse is that they actually killed 156 children. The terrorist group was made up of Chechens and Islamic militants. I'm not surprised the Islamists were a part of it. This just goes to show that terrorists have absolutely NO consideration for anyone else, and they have no mercy or compassion for anyone. A few of the terrorists actually refused their mission when they found out what it was (it was kept secret from them until they got to the school). SO what happened to them? the leader of the group shot some of them, and then took two other guys and detonated their explosives belts by remote control. these a$$hats are so animalistic that they'll just kill some of their own for disagreeing. If i were Vladimir Putin (Russia's president) i would have an incredibly quick crackdown in Chechnya. a message needs to be sent to these guys that they ain't screwing around anymore.

and it's because of things like this that we're in Afghanistan and Iraq. imagine what it would be like if a school here in the U.S. was raided, and the terrorists killed OUR kids. there would be some motherfu*kin hell to pay.

[Skapimp]

3 attacks in a week or so in Russia... seems like they need to crack down.

Your opinion is pretty much going to be the opinion of every American. No one supports the killing of innocent children or people... but at the same time, that would never happen in America. Even if terrorists were to do that here, we would have a much swifter response. We wouldn't let it go for days, and when we did attack, it would be uniformed (even though in Russia it was set off by one official shooting a terrorist as he was mowing down children that were running away).

[Denis]

Originally posted by Skapimp:
No one supports the killing of innocent children or people... but at the same time, that would never happen in America.

April 19, 1995

[Skapimp]

Originally posted by Denis:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skapimp:
No one supports the killing of innocent children or people... but at the same time, that would never happen in America.

April 19, 1995 </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, Oklahoma City bombing was a terrorist attack, but a group of radicals didn't take over a building and kill hostages over a period of time. America has always acted quickly as possible, and normally initiate the attack, instead of waiting for the terrorists to kill hostages and then attack. A bombing is different than a hostage situation.

[DaRock]

Well, before speaking on Chechnya, people should research the topic.

500,000 Chechans have died in the recent conflict. Out of 1,200,000 people.

42,000 Chechans of school age have died in the recent conflict.

Russia isnt like America, they carpet bomb cities.

[ka50]

Originally posted by DaRock:
Well, before speaking on Chechnya, people should research the topic.

500,000 Chechans have died in the recent conflict. Out of 1,200,000 people.

42,000 Chechans of school age have died in the recent conflict.

Russia isnt like America, they carpet bomb cities.

You don't know jack sh*t about neither Russians, nor chechens nor the war that's going on in there and how it's fought and you're already spweing some bulls*it out.

Get your facts straight before spewing out this kind of propaganda.

[DaRock]

Originally posted by ka50:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DaRock:
Well, before speaking on Chechnya, people should research the topic.

500,000 Chechans have died in the recent conflict. Out of 1,200,000 people.

42,000 Chechans of school age have died in the recent conflict.

Russia isnt like America, they carpet bomb cities.

You don't know jack sh*t about neither Russians, nor chechens nor the war that's going on in there and how it's fought and you're already spweing some bulls*it out.

Get your facts straight before spewing out this kind of propaganda. </font>[/QUOTE]LOL

Dispute those numbers I have given you. I have been to the province of Dagestan in the Caucuses.

My best friend is a Chechan.

Stalin at one time deported the entire Chechan population to Kazakhstan, of which ONE THIRD died.

In the recent conflict, 500,000 CHECHANS HAVE BEEN KILLED, out of 1,200,000. Which is almost half the population.

AND 42,000 CHECHEN KIDS OF SCHOOL AGE HAVE BEEN KILLED.

Its a fact, as presented by the UN human rights commision. That Russia carpets bombs Chechan cities like Grozny.

Russia bombs schools etc.

Keep your mouth shut if you dont have facts, bring facts then speak.

[ September 07, 2004, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: DaRock ]

[Skapimp]

Originally posted by ka50:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by DaRock:
Well, before speaking on Chechnya, people should research the topic.

500,000 Chechans have died in the recent conflict. Out of 1,200,000 people.

42,000 Chechans of school age have died in the recent conflict.

Russia isnt like America, they carpet bomb cities.

You don't know jack sh*t about neither Russians, nor chechens nor the war that's going on in there and how it's fought and you're already spweing some bulls*it out.

Get your facts straight before spewing out this kind of propaganda. </font>[/QUOTE]http://www.nirvananet.org/how_to_argue.html

[chas]

i strongly recommend that russia consider UN intervention and sanctions.

[DaRock]

http://www.swersey.com/digital/eyeonroadjul/photo03.jpg

A Chechan Girl. Why is there no outcry when Russian soliders massacre Chechen Children?

Dont you understand killing of all civilians where Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Gay, Black, White is wrong?

[ka50]

Give me solid evidence of carpet bombin.

Give me solid evidence of Russia bombing schools.

Before you do you might as well just shut up.

Also, just cuz animals chechens arm high school kids with guns and send em to fight, doesn't mean Russians are children killers. If a 14 year old kid walks up to you, pulls out a gun and starts shooting you, what is your stupid *** going to do?

Another thing: killing civilians. It's just proves right there that you don't know jack sh*t about that war. It's like this: one moment it's a peacfull civilian, at night, he's with ak hiding out in bushes trying to attack Russians. And then he dissapears. Or dies. Oh ****, yeh he's a civilian, but he was with ak trying to kill people.

Just get your facts straight, before you make yourself look like an idiot and make me all mad at your stupidity.

[ September 07, 2004, 09:20 PM: Message edited by: ka50 ]

[tbird31]

and it's because of things like this that we're in Afghanistan and Iraq. imagine what it would be like if a school here in the U.S. was raided, and the terrorists killed OUR kids. there would be some motherfu*kin hell to pay.

DAMN RIGHT.