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**kala** · 03-02-2006, 12:32 AM

Here's your friend..... Friend

In my honest opinion, just save your money and get a Z28 or ss....it's simpler, better and much more reliable..... ;)

**Fbody3400** · 03-02-2006, 12:40 AM

^^^I don't know why you'd say its much more reliable...? Also confused about the search function being his friend...

First of all, your story wasn't long so no need to apologize. Second, if its a good price and you want the project, go for it. If the price is great, buy it and part it out. Is your '95 a 3.8?

**rs50fox** · 03-02-2006, 07:32 AM

yeah mine is a 3.8 auto

**HokieBird** · 03-02-2006, 09:32 AM

I say keep your 95 to daily drive while the camaro is down and turn the 3.4 into a project car. Swap it or build it for a turbo, whichever you would prefer.

**SpeedingFirebird** · 03-02-2006, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by HokieBird:
I say keep your 95 to daily drive while the camaro is down and turn the 3.4 into a project car. Swap it or build it for a turbo, whichever you would prefer.

x2

**Die Ford V8** · 03-02-2006, 11:27 AM

i agree with the z28 thought.

by the time you turbo and boost the crap out of a 3.4 you will just exceed a stock v8.

If you turbo and cam a v8 you will be in the 11's or 10's with the proper drivetrain. Don't waste your time on a v6, unless you already own it.

nothing against v6s, but there is no replacement for displacement!!

**95FirebirdConvertible** · 03-02-2006, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by SpeedingFirebird:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by HokieBird:
I say keep your 95 to daily drive while the camaro is down and turn the 3.4 into a project car. Swap it or build it for a turbo, whichever you would prefer.

x2 [/QUOTE]x3

Build up that 3.4

**camaro_speedemon** · 03-02-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Die Ford V8:
i agree with the z28 thought.

by the time you turbo and boost the crap out of a 3.4 you will just exceed a stock v8.

If you turbo and cam a v8 you will be in the 11's or 10's with the proper drivetrain. Don't waste your time on a v6, unless you already own it.

nothing against v6s, but there is no replacement for displacement!!

10s!! Yea, with a ****load of work. With an LS1, H/C and some kind of FI will get you 11s yea, but not 10s. Well, not without tearing apart the motor.

**Die Ford V8** · 03-02-2006, 02:28 PM

I watched a guy in a z28 that only had an intake(real intake that bolts onto heads) and a full header exhaust. No weight reduction, stock gearing and tranny, and some sticky street tires. Him and his friend both got the same times in that car. He ran probably 12 times. He was running constant 12.8s in the 1/4. With a 3500 stall, slicks, and a cam that would definitely be in the 11/s!!!!
Add some boost and you might hit low elevens or even high tens. Put in forged internals, transbrake, and good weight reduction that would definitely hit tens, maybe even nines.

With the amount of money he puts into a 3.4 he could be in the 11s or better with a v8. I hope you don't think it WONT take a "****load* of work to get a 3.4 in the low 13's/ remember the LS1 is there stock.

If you want 13's with alot more money then yeah, build that 3.4. The only thing you'll have is bragging rights that your boosted, forged, cammed, and everything else beat a "stock" V8. big deal.

again, THERE IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!!!

It's all horsepower to weight ratio.

Although I'm sure you know alot about cars and already know that.

It's like this guy that thought he was hot stuff. He told me "I'll race you for pink slips"

My car that isn't even on the road yet is a cammed and slightly modded 35o v8. dynoed at 320 rwhp. His car had a twin turbo, intercooled supra motor. He dynoed at around 700 hp. I sayed no way. he was like, "but yours is a v8"

do that to a v8 and your around 1000 hp depending on your setup. my point is basically, the headers you put on a v8 will give you 20 hp to the 3.4s 7hp. (theoretical numbers)

but to each his own. if you want a 3.4 and build the car up and have fun. then that is the whole point! FUN. have fun, and do what you want. our opinion doesn't matter.

**Camarorulz** · 03-02-2006, 02:55 PM

This debate is pointless. Everyone knows that with a V8 (LT1/LS1) you start off faster and end up faster with similar funds/mods. You don't modify a V6 to be the fastest thing out there, it's just cool to have a really quick V6. Personally, I would buy a Z28 if I had the cash and wanted a project car, but making the argument over what will be faster in the end, etc. is pointless because that's common knowledge.

If you want to get props for having a quick sixer, then buy the 3.4 car and build it up.

If you want to be faster for the money, go buy an LT1 car.

Buying the 3.4 car then doing a V8 swap would be costly compared to simply buying an LT1 car to begin with.

**StrtRacer98** · 03-02-2006, 03:34 PM

but also,... he said he's getting a really good deal and helping a friend out by buying the car... go for it if u can get a deal

**Mighty Thor** · 03-02-2006, 03:47 PM

There's a difference between a 12 sec. V8 and a 12 sec. V6. You'll get more satisfaction with the V6.

A fast V8 is a dime a dozen and it doesn't take a brain or effort for that matter to make it fast. A fast V6 is rare and very unique.

Nobody, except Tiago, has ever made their 3.4 very fast. I say do it!!

**kala** · 03-02-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by Fbody3400:
^^^I don't know why you'd say its much more reliable...? Also confused about the search function being his friend...

First of all, your story wasn't long so no need to apologize. Second, if its a good price and you want the project, go for it. If the price is great, buy it and part it out. Is your '95 a 3.8?

Did you read his thread??? He said that he should do v8 swap or Turbo...i said to him "Search" is his best friend because i am pretty darn sure it was discussed a million times and when i searched i found out i was right....then i said "in my honest opinion"<---this is my freakin opinion, that getting z28 is easier, it's reliable cuz buying a 3.4 and swapping v8 is a lot of work and there's always possibility to mess something up....and buying a z28 would be a lot better cost wise than buying all those parts and engine not to mention labor cost.......
if you \rs50fox\ think swapping a v8 is fun for you do it no problem but it would be easier and cheaper just to get a z28....

**Fbody3400** · 03-02-2006, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by kala:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Fbody3400:
^^^I don't know why you'd say its much more reliable...? Also confused about the search function being his friend...

First of all, your story wasn't long so no need to apologize. Second, if its a good price and you want the project, go for it. If the price is great, buy it and part it out. Is your '95 a 3.8?

Did you read his thread??? He said that he should do v8 swap or Turbo...i said to him "Search" is his best friend because i am pretty darn sure it was discussed a million times and when i searched i found out i was right....then i said "in my honest opinion"<---this is my freakin opinion, that getting z28 is easier, it's reliable cuz buying a 3.4 and swapping v8 is a lot of work and there's always possibility to mess something up....and buying a z28 would be a lot better cost wise than buying all those parts and engine not to mention labor cost.......
if you \rs50fox\ think swapping a v8 is fun for you do it no problem but it would be easier and cheaper just to get a z28.... [/QUOTE]Ok, well I in no way try to put you down. I thought you were saying that V8s were more reliable than V6s to start off with, see where i'm coming from?

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