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**Dan M** · 03-11-2005, 12:51 AM

cool job, sounds right up my alley.....

**V8 Killer** · 03-11-2005, 12:52 AM

50-60 hours a week?

ehhh, but the money will be ok.

**Everglades W68** · 03-11-2005, 12:53 AM

Just remember left is hot, right is cold and **** flows downhill - oh wait that's plumbing. Well, the last part still is applicable.

**shock_core** · 03-11-2005, 01:11 AM

IT is basic computer work . I mean, i'm pretty sure if you can build ur own computer and network and maintain it you can do IT. I think. Its really easy work, I learned it all by taking stuff apart. I mean, can you not run cable? can you not hook up RJ45? can you not troubleshoot a network/computer?

I took a CCNA class, and it was a breeze. You'll be fine, but if you wanna get something to read, go to a bookstore and like just find any IT book and just start reading. that way you dont have to pay or check anything out :D

**BirdOfPrey01** · 03-11-2005, 02:46 AM

Thats where you start brother!

I can't stress enough to learn as much as possible about wi-fi. It's the next big thing, although right now its buggy. But still It's going to be hot within the next couple years.

My friend started out just like you... 10$-12$ per hour jobs... Now he is making $25 per hour after 1 year of experience...

People say the I.T industry is dead... its not, it grows constantly.

Can you believe that many businesses still use dailup? Infact many business's do not have a network at all because they are scared of the cost? Or the owners just prefer old fasioned methods because they have yet to discover new technology?
Isn't that some funny sh*t?

This country is not short of workers... its short of skilled experienced workers.

Do not expect to get a "great career" job right out of school, because you won't, or your chances are very slim to say. Many people give up once they realize they went to school for 4 years and can't get a secure job.

The problem with america these days is the people want to finish school and run the show...

I have never heard of a newbie comming straight from school and becomming an electrician, plumber, steamfitter, welder... a successful one that is.

They are always an apprentice first, this is how experience is gained. This is how skills are developed... not by reading books.

**Fusion** · 03-12-2005, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by shock_core:
IT is basic computer work . I mean, i'm pretty sure if you can build ur own computer and network and maintain it you can do IT. I think. Its really easy work, I learned it all by taking stuff apart. I mean, can you not run cable? can you not hook up RJ45? can you not troubleshoot a network/computer?

I took a CCNA class, and it was a breeze. You'll be fine, but if you wanna get something to read, go to a bookstore and like just find any IT book and just start reading. that way you dont have to pay or check anything out :D

Umm, you took one CCNA class? Or you took the course?

It is anything but a breeze.

**shock_core** · 03-13-2005, 02:47 AM

the course, 4 seimesters, it was easy for me at least, i was uber dork before i got my car :\ the problem is now though, since my car has corrupted me, i have like forgotten everything :[

**Fusion** · 03-13-2005, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by shock_core:
the course, 4 seimesters, it was easy for me at least, i was uber dork before i got my car :\ the problem is now though, since my car has corrupted me, i have like forgotten everything :[

Well I had a few friends that took it that failed miserably on the test. They said it was hard as crap.

I work in IT also, and have been the last 3-4 years. Pay is good! Troubleshooting is where it is at. Even if you know nothing of the problem or the software if you can troubleshoot that is where it is at. I'd say I have above average troubleshooting skills. I dare say I have yet to have something completely stump me. (not including code). [img]smile.gif[/img] Enjoy your job and I hope it pays well!

**chas** · 03-13-2005, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Everglades W68:
Just remember left is hot, right is cold and **** flows downhill - oh wait that's plumbing. Well, the last part still is applicable.

hey you should work in my building. one bathroom has two hot taps--while the hot/cold are on the correct sides they both turn the same direction. the other bathroom has the hot and cold reversed (but again hot/cold on the correct sides). the handles turn the opposite of the 'normal' direction.

i keep turning them the wrong way.

**CANTONRACER** · 03-16-2005, 12:21 PM

You are what we call a grunt...not an IT guy yet.

CCNA classes...cake to attend. Pass the test yet...if not, your talking out ye arse.

Get your basic certs and just learn from us seasoned guys...and if you work with users...polish up your customer service skills...

And remember...even with certs...until have some actual experience...you are a "paper tiger".

But congrats and good luck...you can make a good living if you apply yourself.

**1DangerousV6** · 03-16-2005, 04:09 PM

i dont know much about private industry..i only worked in it 8 months and have been with the government since (4 years) ..i guess i can offer this advice..despite what some people think..the CD-ROM drive is not a cup holder..on a more serious note..i got in when the business was BOOMING..use this place to build up your resume..then maybe go somewhere else that offers more dough and even better benefits..usually IT jobs = job security and lots of $$$ ..congrats on the job!

**majeskyb** · 03-17-2005, 01:49 AM

I'd look into books dealing with the programming of switches/router, setting up multi-layered networks. Maybe get your A+, and pick up a CCNA prep book. If anything, you'll get an idea of what's all involved with the job. The best part (at least for me) are all the stupid jobs I get, like when somebody can't ping the default gateway, because they disabled the correct nic, and enabled the one not in use. Also learn the standards (568A/B, etc.), protocols in use (RIP/IGRP/EIGRP, etc.), and how to terminate cables. Fiber can be a pain at first, but once you get the hang of it, it's easy.

One of the most important things- if you're ever programming routers or switches, save the config often! Have fun with the job man

**BirdOfPrey01** · 03-17-2005, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by shock_core:
IT is basic computer work . I mean, i'm pretty sure if you can build ur own computer and network and maintain it you can do IT. I think. Its really easy work, I learned it all by taking stuff apart. I mean, can you not run cable? can you not hook up RJ45? can you not troubleshoot a network/computer?

I took a CCNA class, and it was a breeze. You'll be fine, but if you wanna get something to read, go to a bookstore and like just find any IT book and just start reading. that way you dont have to pay or check anything out :D

All college IT related classes are a breeze... half of it is newbie book work.

Reading books does diddly squat for experience.

You can read, read, read, about configuring routers and firewalls. But when you have to actually sit down and do it... Trust me... You will need some time to figure out whats going on first. It's not a breeze everytime

I'v seen some stats saying only 25% of the people of every class for IT related subjects will go to become deep and dirty into networking/programming consulting.

The reason is too many people think working with computers is simple... How hard can it be? Click a mouse, type something in right?

Oh wait... don't forget the software programs and hundreds functions you must remember. On top of that, you will run into problems...

On top of that every network is different.

Different operating systems, different design, different software, different hardware/drivers.

You will be working on hardware priced under and over $200,000. (Routers, firewalls, servers, they are not cheap.)

http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/pr...7&stext=router

http://www.windowsmarketplace.com/pr...stext=firewall

^ Cheaper of the expensive ones.

Most people are intimidated by this stuff. Hell, I'v knew a guy with huge a ego, talks all this crap and he was scared to handle the ****in NIC card, install it, then install the drivers...

Dont be afraid, computers do not bite! Anything you destroy on the software side can be replaced. Rule number 1... back up... 2-4 copies of all your data.

[ March 17, 2005, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: BirdOfPrey01 ]

**Tyler** · 03-17-2005, 07:06 PM

my advice is if you dont know jack **** about any IT.. drop the job and let those who have been busting their balls in school get the job.. I have been going crazy try'n to get an IT job.. and here we got someone filling out a bs resume and landing a job in the IT department... damn i never win

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