Should Arnold Schwarzenegger run for President

[Mighty Thor]

Forget to mention. It's Maria Shriver that's try to make that change for her husband. And she's a Democrat.

[98goldbird]

95K...Yes, Infernal may know more about some aspects in life than Chris Rock, but you also have to agree that it's Vice Versa. I'm not sayinig it's because he's famous. I'm just saying that he went through a crap load to get to where he's at. Im sure, because of his status, that he's gone to more place and has experienced a heck of a lot more than Infernal. (Duh, he has the money to do whatever and go wherever he wants). I'm sure they're both around the same age (~40)(Sorry if you're under 40 Infernal, I just see your member #) so they've experienced life the same. I'm just saying, that Infernals response of Chris Rock's ignorance is absurd, regarding the facts.

I'm not saying that this is a racism thing regarding presidency. It was never about racism. It was about Overly Patriotic Americans.

Why couldn't the ratification say something along the lines of this...to elimate those "open doors"

"The election of Presidency has been ratified to allow participants, who have maintained an Office of Government for a minimum of 5-10 years, and have held citizenship for 25-40 years, be eligable to run."

That's just a quick, unorganized, statement. The age range could vary, but be reasonable. I mean, the Constitution has been ratified since day one. That's life, cuz society has changed, thus the rules.

[98goldbird]

In foreign countries its so hard to get citizern ship or even get accepted into the country, even if you can speak their language, have a college education and so on.

In our country you don't need to speak english, know how to do anything, and your more than welcome to bring your dirty family.

Your talking about illegal immigrants. You know how hard and long it takes to get your green card. At least 5 years, give or take. In the case of Arnold S, your statement doesn't apply. Oh, and regards to your statement, welcome to America. We call what you're talking about....FREEDOM.

[98goldbird]

Forget to mention. It's Maria Shriver that's try to make that change for her husband. And she's a Democrat.

Once again, I bring up a Chris Rock statement.

"But the whole country’s gotta ****ed up mentality. Man, we all gotta gang mentality. Republicans are ****ing idiots. And democrats are ****ing idiots. And conservatives are idiots. And liberals are idiots. And, and ANYONE who makes up their mind before they hear the ****ing issue is and idiot! OK!?! Everyone’s so busy with wanting to be down with, “I’m a liberal, I’m a conservative.” BULL****. Be a ****ing PERSON. LISTEN! Let it swirl around in your head. Then! Form your opinion. No normal decent person is one thing. OK!?! I got some **** I’m conservative about, and I got some **** I’m liberal about. Crime, I’m conservative. Prostitution, I’m liberal."

Aside from the last sentence (Comedy of course), the meaning behind that phrase is SOOO true. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEMOCRAT AND LIBERAL. All that needs to happen is for this nation to figure that out and accept it.

BUT....LETS KEEP THIS ON THE ACCEPTANCE OF ARNOLD RUNNING FOR PRESIDENCY.

[shock_core]

wtf is going on here? i leave for like a couple days and this happens. Who careS? if he does a good job, who freaking cares? $hit, i'll run for prez. Give all us f-body'ers a tax break :D

[98goldbird]

wtf is going on here? i leave for like a couple days and this happens. Who careS? if he does a good job, who freaking cares? $hit, i'll run for prez. Give all us f-body'ers a tax break

In Lamen's terms... [img]graemlins/rock.gif[/img] LOL. Right! If he does a good job in CA, then why not? But I think this is mostly about foreigners/non-US-born citizens gaining presidency and the ratification of the Constitution to allow it. If Arnold does bad in CA, then NO!, I'm not going to vote for him, and I doubt that he would run. But if he does good, then $hit, I'll take him over Gore, Dole, Bush, etc.

[BLLDOGG]

i think he should be allowed to run. give them all a chance but have it be like 40yr min. requirement of being a citizen to run

[Fbody3400]

The fact is they have 4 years to amend the Constitution, and the GOP runs the house. Although I'm not very keen of the idea, I wouldn't mind Arnold for a President, he's doing a fine job in CA. and i know he wouldn't take any **** from anybody. Of course there would be the contraversy that every president gets. Then if we had to go to war, there would be people who hated him, and the people that loved him. The point is, America is looked upon as the father of the world, when something bad happens in another country, other country's look at us to see "are they gonna do anything?"

[98goldbird]

Aw man...I'm waiting for more people to bring up "ego's" that I can debate with (if you haven't noticed, I love debating). Well, looks like there's somewhat of a leniancy in regards to Arnold's Presidency run if it should happen. GREAT! ;)

[Infernal]

Originally posted by 98goldbird:
[img]graemlins/stickpoke.gif[/img] Now REALLY...begrime the wisdom of our founding fathers by quoting Chris Rock? Guess I was right about close-mindedness.

Yes, begrime the wisdom of our founding fathers. I find it interesting that while you continue to insist that the topic has nothing to do with racism, you then use examples of racism in our nation's past as an argument. Did you notice that Mr. "Rock" was speaking specifically about white Americans in his little diatribe? I could just as easily point out the racism in that, but let's stick to the real topic.

Originally posted by 98goldbird:

Hmmm...Jefferson had slaves, didnt he? The Constitution was ORIGINALLY written to only let WHITE MEN PROPERTY OWNERS vote and play a role in politics, and now everyone can. (Is that a problem to you? Cuz that begrimed their wisdom) Constitution was racist, and everyone knows it.

Again, what does this have to do with anything? you are the one who keeps bringing up racism. The notion that disallowing foreign born from holding the highest office in our nation is somehow racist is absurd. It has nothing to do with race, it has more to do with nationality. Originally that was written into the constitution to guarantee that wealthy Europeans, the same ones we declared our independence from, were never able to establish control over our people. I could argue that this notion is more valid today than it ever has been.

Originally posted by 98goldbird:

You do to, right? Should it still be? And NOW, why would you call Chris Rock a belligerent half-illiterate high school drop out comedian?

Because he is? He is a high school drop out, and he is belligerent, at least that's how he comes off to me. Is he half-illiterate? I don't know, really, he doesn't stop using the word F*** frequently enough to toss in a few words that have more than four letters, so who can say. I was making an educated guess.

Originally posted by 98goldbird:

I'm sure he knows a hella lot more than you do.

You're sure of that, are you? That's fine -- I'm not here to argue that. Although, considering that you know nothing about me or what I know, I do tend to wonder why you believe that.

Originally posted by 98goldbird:

But aside from that, Bush was a C student, is that a problem for you? He wasn't a highschool dropout because he WANTED to be.

What does President Bush have to do with this argument? This may come as a shock to you, but President Bush was not one of our founding fathers. :eek:

Originally posted by 98goldbird:

You can thank America for the creation of the "projects."

Again, you're all over the place with your argument. Maybe I'm just dense, but what do the "projects" have to do with whether or not Arnold Schwarzenegger should be allowed to run for the executive office?

Originally posted by 98goldbird:

I'm guessing you come from a well endowed family Infernal, and that most of the people you know are middle class citizens. Thus, you look aside the fact that some people actually do struggle to get through life.

I actually laughed out loud when I read this part. You're so far off base that it borders on absurdity. But, frankly, I don't like to talk about my personal life on the Internet. Take my word for it, I understand all too well about the struggles of life. I can assure you of one thing, though. Washington, Hamilton, Madison, Franklin, and others, were quite a bit more educated than Chris Rock.

[mike h]

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[Jerriko]

Originally posted by Infernal:
What the hell does this even have to do with the post? Is this a response to people stating that only American born should be able to lead our nation?

Would you really begrime the wisdom of our founding fathers by quoting a belligerent half-illiterate high school drop out comedian?

Outstanding. :rolleyes:

What founding fathers are you referring to? You're a f*cking alien! And if you think about it, our founding fathers are children of immigrants as we all are. So much for tradition or respecting your roots, right. Go back to your own planet and leave our problems to human beings.

[mike h]

well ok, you know what? every person in the world who doesnt live in africa is an immigrant because if you go back far enough in our ancestory thats where were from. :rolleyes: after 10 generations of mixing 4 or 5 ethnicities i consider myself american. hell, my grandma's grandma was spanish but i dont consider myself spanish. jeesh.

[mike h]

plus i cant go against infernal or he'll admin ban me! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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[GreenDragon]

Originally posted by Infernal:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98goldbird:
Excuse me when I say this, but F*** all you dumbass overly patriotic americans. Chris Rock said it best in his comeback appearance on "Chris Rock Never Scared."

What the hell does this even have to do with the post? Is this a response to people stating that only American born should be able to lead our nation?

Would you really begrime the wisdom of our founding fathers by quoting a belligerent half-illiterate high school drop out comedian?

Outstanding. :rolleyes: </font>[/QUOTE]I think Chris rock did pretty good for a belligerent half-illiterate high school drop out comedian.I mean making Million's and all.
Going back to the subject,I think the Idea of Arnold running for office is Interesting. [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]