assault weapon ban

[HAZ-Matt]

The ban really did not accomplish anything as it was poorly written. Therefore the US will not be any more dangerous now than it was a week ago. You may however argue that we need a more stringent law that closes all the loopholes of the last one or that the whole idea is assinine and that people have the 'right' to own anything that they want.

What would be more interesting is a discussion of whether or not Americans deserve rights based on their inability to take responsibility for their own actions.

[HAZ-Matt]

BTW, I would rather be shot at by a shotgun or a pistol at ranges of over 200 yards.

PS. Nobody owns any weapons that will put a 5.56mm AR15 variant to shame in it's intended role as an infantry weapon laying down a large zone of fire. Look up the trajectory of a 5.56mm as opposed to 7.62 and the reasons for why the 5.56 was selected.

[BLLDOGG]

well he could have alteast got on top of this and renewed it

[ReodDai]

Like everyone has told you it isn't worth renewing. It was a worthless ban.

[98Camaro3.8]

Then he could have at least gone and banned all guns. Then there'd be no more murders. It's all Bush's fault. :rolleyes:

[ReodDai]

Next ban martial arts, we don't need anyone knowing how to defend themselves ;) Damn jet li...

[RallyRed 98]

WTF is the deal with all the slippery slopes around here?

[MrCoffee]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
Next ban martial arts, we don't need anyone knowing how to defend themselves ;) Damn jet li...

you joke but I know if you have formal training it can be used against you in court cases in which you abuse someone or defend yourself. yea, like that movie with nicolas cage, he was an army ranger and got sent to jail for killing some guy that attacked him.

[BLLDOGG]

Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
Then he could have at least gone and banned all guns. Then there'd be no more murders. It's all Bush's fault. :rolleyes:

cause i said it was :rolleyes:

[C.O.Jones]

Originally posted by MrCoffee:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
Next ban martial arts, we don't need anyone knowing how to defend themselves ;) Damn jet li...

you joke but I know if you have formal training it can be used against you in court cases in which you abuse someone or defend yourself. yea, like that movie with nicolas cage, he was an army ranger and got sent to jail for killing some guy that attacked him. </font>[/QUOTE]And there are certain martial arts weapons that are illegal to carry. I can get a gun permit and carry a handgun, but I cannot carry nunchucks or even purchase a switchblade.

[shock_core]

you come make your own nunchucks, just cut a sway bar in half and rope it together ... you dont need guns with that [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Chris S]

Why is everyone forgetting than in 94(and this remains true), according to the Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, Less than 2 percent of all crimes were committed with "assault weapons"?


"Yes, let's legislate against a problem that doesn't exist!"


98 percent of all gun crimes are committed with hand guns. Lopsided?

[ReodDai]

Originally posted by MrCoffee:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
Next ban martial arts, we don't need anyone knowing how to defend themselves ;) Damn jet li...

you joke but I know if you have formal training it can be used against you in court cases in which you abuse someone or defend yourself. yea, like that movie with nicolas cage, he was an army ranger and got sent to jail for killing some guy that attacked him. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually my step dad's friend got put in jail for killing another man in self defense. I never got a chance to meet him but he was a 5th degree black belt in kung fu. Snap the guys neck and exploded his right knee.

[ReodDai]

Originally posted by Chris S:
Why is everyone forgetting than in 94(and this remains true), according to the Federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, Less than 2 percent of all crimes were committed with "assault weapons"?


"Yes, let's legislate against a problem that doesn't exist!"


98 percent of all gun crimes are committed with hand guns. Lopsided?

Well.. would you rather try to sneak a AK around in your pocket or a 9mm glock ? Its simple logic.

[speedracer95v6]

Crime is at it's lowest point ever in the US.

Blldogg, making it fully auto is, I believe, a felony and of course a mandatory prison sentence.
The way people cheaply turn their weapons fully auto(which by the way can be done to any semiauto rifle or pistol) usually shoot a clip at a time.

military "automatic" weapons usually fire 2-3 shots at a time (m16 -3 shot burst i believe, l1a1 2 shot double action). These guns are only "assault weapons" mainly for the size of their clips. It is easy to reload a clip, and banning large ones does nothing to inhibit gun crime if someone is gonna do the crime.