New Car

[Nicklz]

I've been searching for a new, well used car but new to me. I found a Acura RSX typeS, it's blue, 6spd, power sunroof, mirrors, windows. In dash 6 disc CD, with bose sound system.

Figured I'd at least drive it and give it a fare chance, seeing I couldn't find any of the original vehicles, I'd started out to find.

After driving it I was very impressed, enigne has plenty of power, the 6speed tranny shifts super smooth, and solid. Car is glued to the road, it appears to have been lowered, and it does have an exhaust (fart cannon). But it doesn't drone into the car to bad. Definitely would by a silencer for the exhaust.

I've been researching them for the last couple hours, and they seem very reliable, great gas mileage (30mpg), plenty of room inside (up front anyways), cargo area in trunk is large enough for my work stuff, and my golf clubs. The performance end of it, well I didn't want to go back to the dealership, but the low fuel light was on.

I think I'm sold...

[BLLDOGG]

what year? I remember when i turned 16 before i even thought of a camaro, i had my eye on those cool little things

[Nicklz]

of it's an 2002 RSX typeS, every option avaliable except factory spoiler. It has 50,xxx on it, but I put that much in a year on one so no biggie.

They want $16,900 for it, KBB suggested retail is $18,040.00. And they said they'd take $4700.00 for my 96 firebird with 152,000 miles. So after trade in, I'd be paying $12,200 for it. I was going to put down 4k. So I'd finance $8200.00 at an estimated 7%, comes out to $162.37 a month.

[95Batmobile]

Hope you won't miss having torque [img]tongue.gif[/img] lol

And usually interest rates aren't that low on used cars... but maybe you can get lucky.

[Nicklz]

7% Is typical on used vehicle less than 4 years old. I have good credit so I don't think it will be a problem.

I really hate financing things though. I will have it paid off in, like 6-8 months after I buy it. Maybe after I pay my taxes, depending how bad the IRS decides to *** rape me.

[Nicklz]

#'s 02 RSX typeS 0-60 6.1sec 1/4 14.8sec, not to shabby.

I'm thinking about buying this thing tomorrow, still got to check insurance.

What you guys think? I know it's late, and it's past alot of your all's bed time. [img]graemlins/stickpoke.gif[/img]

But seriously if your awake and reading this what do you think.

[shock_core]

14.8, must be pretty light car?

[Nicklz]

It's 2778lbs, has 200hp, rev line of 7800rpm.

[mike h]

how much torque? i read somewhere on the site that HP is calculated using torque. Correct me if I'm wrong, but horsepower is like how fast the engine can get the wheels spinning fast, and torque is the force applied to keep the wheels spinning at that speed. thats why low torque = crappy towing.

[Nicklz]

Torque: 142 lb.-ft. @ 6000 rpm

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by mike h:
how much torque? i read somewhere on the site that HP is calculated using torque. Correct me if I'm wrong, but horsepower is like how fast the engine can get the wheels spinning fast, and torque is the force applied to keep the wheels spinning at that speed. thats why low torque = crappy towing.

HP = Torque * (RPM/5252). That's why the torque curve and HP curve are always the same at 5252 rpm on a dyno chart. ;)


Edit: Some good info here: http://www.g-speed.com/pbh/torque-and-hp.html

First of all, from a driver's perspective, torque, to use the vernacular, RULES :). Any given car, in any given gear, will accelerate at a rate that *exactly* matches its torque curve (allowing for increased air and rolling resistance as speeds climb). Another way of saying this is that a car will accelerate hardest at its torque peak in any given gear, and will not accelerate as hard below that peak, or above it. Torque is the only thing that a driver feels, and horsepower is just sort of an esoteric measurement in that context. 300 foot pounds of torque will accelerate you just as hard at 2000 rpm as it would if you were making that torque at 4000 rpm in the same gear, yet, per the formula, the horsepower would be *double* at 4000 rpm. Therefore, horsepower isn't particularly meaningful from a driver's perspective, and the two numbers only get friendly at 5252 rpm, where horsepower and torque always come out the same.

[Nicklz]

You guys think it's a good deal is what I'm getting at...

back ground
I've been looking to replace the bird since it has 152,000miles. Need a car that I will drive 40-60 thousand miles a year. So I need good gas mileage, reliabiltiy/maintenance. But most important is the car is fun to drive, and is comfortable. Through research I found the seats in the typeS are recaro seats, wrapped in leather. Very deep, good side support (I have a bad back from a bad wreck last year)

Lots of room upfront for the driver, lots of little places for maps, cell phone, files, work stuff.

I know this is a american muscle type forum, but what are your alls impressions of the RSX??

[mike h]

thats an awesome article. it makes more sense why stock GNX's are slow, I saw that they had 350-ish torque but at 2000 RPM, so from then on it drops. I havent seen the power curves though, I'm just assuming.