Saturn Ion Redline and Chevy Cobalt SS

[1DangerousV6]

id probably buy the srt4 over it..but the Cobalt's pretty cool..eh..people will have fun modding them [img]smile.gif[/img]

[99v6cam]

Originally posted by RedFrk13:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 99v6cam:
Not too familiar with the Ion redline specs but it doesn't seem too bad. The Cobalt seems very good except for stock boost being already at 12 or 14psi (something right around there). Makes me feeel like the motor doesn't have much potential if it needs 12 pounds of boost to make 205hp...

I think the SRT-4 runs around 12 psi also. The Mitsu EVO runs 19 psi. The SS only has m62, im sure there will be a kit for an m90 and also a turbo kit in the future. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I am really impressed with the cobolt ss. It seems like a great car for 20k and I would take it over an srt4. It might not be as fast in the 1/4, but it outhandles it and I just dont trust chrysler. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I dont know why GM stop using turbos. I think the last production car/truck they had with a turbo was the Typhoon is 93. They have been doing well with the supercharger, but I would rather see the turbos come back so they can dominate like they did when they used them. </font>[/QUOTE]I'm not saying it's bad that it already has 12 psi, I'm saying it's bad because @ 12psi it only has 205hp at the crank as compared to the srt4 having 230hp. The car is great from what I hear. It'll be a nice war to watch between them, and the skittles :D

[95Batmobile]

Originally posted by 99v6cam:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by RedFrk13:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 99v6cam:
Not too familiar with the Ion redline specs but it doesn't seem too bad. The Cobalt seems very good except for stock boost being already at 12 or 14psi (something right around there). Makes me feeel like the motor doesn't have much potential if it needs 12 pounds of boost to make 205hp...

I think the SRT-4 runs around 12 psi also. The Mitsu EVO runs 19 psi. The SS only has m62, im sure there will be a kit for an m90 and also a turbo kit in the future. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I am really impressed with the cobolt ss. It seems like a great car for 20k and I would take it over an srt4. It might not be as fast in the 1/4, but it outhandles it and I just dont trust chrysler. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I dont know why GM stop using turbos. I think the last production car/truck they had with a turbo was the Typhoon is 93. They have been doing well with the supercharger, but I would rather see the turbos come back so they can dominate like they did when they used them. </font>[/QUOTE]I'm not saying it's bad that it already has 12 psi, I'm saying it's bad because @ 12psi it only has 205hp at the crank as compared to the srt4 having 230hp. The car is great from what I hear. It'll be a nice war to watch between them, and the skittles :D </font>[/QUOTE]Actually, the ion redline makes like 197 at the wheels... I bet the cobalt does the same thing.
And from all the reviews, the cobalt is pretty nice inside, and the ride quality is awesome. The SRT-4 is good for straight line acceleration, thats it. The ride quality and handling gets owneeed by every other car in its class. I would take a cobalt over the SRT-4. I think the stock ecotec block safely handles 350-400hp too, if I remember right. I know they have another ecotec block that will handle 500, and another than handles like 750 or something.

[WishIHad$$$]

Ecotec engines have hit 1200+hp using 50% stock parts.

[V8 Killer]

hmmmm...so without superchargers these cars would be hitting barely above 100 HP ?

[95Batmobile]

Originally posted by V8 Killer:
hmmmm...so without superchargers these cars would be hitting barely above 100 HP ?

I think they have 140 or 160 stock, the regular cavalier right? err, regular cobalt?

[articacid]

how in the world are they hitting 1200 hp? does anyone have any proof of this?

[V8 Killer]

What other cars had the Ecotec engine?

[KBeezy]

Opel Speedster and Vauxhaul VX220...

1200 horsepower out of an Ecotec? Look at the GM FWD drag Cavalier ;) Its an Ecotec motor. Want to have a 600-700-800hp streetable Ecotec FWD car? Look no further than GM Performance Parts, they offer everything that is in that motor, from pistons to rods to an all aluminum race block and even turbo exhaust manifolds... Hell, they even have intake manifolds that are for use with an LS1 70mm throttlebody.

on top of that, I will add, the 2.4 Ecotec motor has a 175hp rating ;) The 2.2 has a 150hp/150tq rating.. And the 2.0 SC has 205hp/200tq...

[RedFrk13]

Originally posted by articacid:
how in the world are they hitting 1200 hp? does anyone have any proof of this?

The ecotech is used for pro drag racing. There is a huge aftermarket for it, even from GM themselves. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[dashboardrunner]

pretty much all the newer 4 bangers are i think and have been for the last few years... i heard about the 1200 hp in one before... like a drag cavalier or something... dunno for sure so correct me if im wrong...

[mike h]

i would like to see a funny car with a 2.4L ecotech lol, im sure it would be good.

im not saying ecotechs are bad, because the cobalt sure proves its a worthy engine, but come on.

the name sounds like its a hybrid car or something (thats what i thought the first time i heard the name)

i would take a cobalt SS or especially a redline. 200 stock HP is no sissy.

[RedFrk13]

The 3800 is called an ecotech is austrailia. Im still not sure the reason it has a different name there.

[KBeezy]

Not Ecotech.. Its Ecotec....

[WishIHad$$$]

Originally posted by 95Batmobile:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by V8 Killer:
hmmmm...so without superchargers these cars would be hitting barely above 100 HP ?

I think they have 140 or 160 stock, the regular cavalier right? err, regular cobalt? </font>[/QUOTE]I heard GM makes parts available for well over 200na hp