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  • #16
    Why would it do bad?

    People will find out from Commercials or whatever it is a European division of GM.German division none the less..People will compare them to other German cars like Mercedes and Volkswagon,which are excellent cars.They would sell.Scion is a brand new subsidiary of Toyota and already doing well...

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    • #17
      scion was heavily marketed. toyota is already proven to be a great automobile builder. the name caddilac markets itself. but if i ever saw a commercial for the "opel catera" i wouldnt be too excited. not saying that they are bad cars, because i dont know, but it would take a while for people to start buying them.

      also why did they stop selling cateras after 2001, and like 5 years of production? (not being a smart-***, i just want to know)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mike h:
        toyota is already proven to be a great automobile builder.
        and GM isnt ? ;)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by V8 Killer:
          </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mike h:
          toyota is already proven to be a great automobile builder.
          and GM isnt ? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]I think you ment to say GM was proven.... [img]graemlins/stickpoke.gif[/img]
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          • #20
            Originally posted by V8 Killer:
            </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mike h:
            toyota is already proven to be a great automobile builder.
            and GM isnt ? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]of course it is...? whats your point lol

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            • #21
              lol..actully I just meant to reply to the "great automobile builder" part :D

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mike h:
                </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by V8 Killer:
                </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by mike h:
                toyota is already proven to be a great automobile builder.
                and GM isnt ? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]of course it is...? whats your point lol </font>[/QUOTE]My point is, Opel is GM.

                Yet you think it is a horrible car....

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                • #23
                  Yea, Opel is GM. And in all actuality (SP?), and despite what James says, GM isnt crap. Maybe a branch of GM is crap, but that doesnt mean ALL of GM is crap. And just for the record, I dont think ANY branch of GM is crap.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mike h:
                    [QB] notice the guy who called them rubbish lives in the UK. im sure he's familiar with them.
                    Yes, I'm familiar with them.

                    My ex-g/f had a Peugeot (pronounced Pur-zhow) 206 as a company car (well, she was a nanny working for a family) for a while.
                    The pedals were all too close together, the driving position was all wrong and the handling was awful.
                    Other than that, it was a wonderful car [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
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                    • #25
                      My ex-g/f had a Peugeot (pronounced Pur-zhow) 206
                      hell, i dont even know how to pronounce "zhow" [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]
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                      • #26
                        think of "per" only without the "rrrr" at the end... all you need is the "euh" sound before the "rrr."

                        by "zhow" he means a hard "sz" sound before the "oh" sound.

                        opel imported the GT (and maybe something else) in the 60s, renault imported the "le car" in the 80's and peugeot also imported something in the 80's... maybe a 405? merkur brought some stuff over and so did lancia i think...

                        but imagine having to pay import duties and tax and **** on a european car that is already more expensive (for lots of reasons) that may or may not be any better than a domestic. doesn't seem like such a great idea.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
                          </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />My ex-g/f had a Peugeot (pronounced Pur-zhow) 206
                          hell, i dont even know how to pronounce "zhow" [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Well, If I put 'show' it would be slightly inacruate, which is why I changed the S to a Z.

                          I could figure out how to write that particular sound.
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                          • #28
                            Does anyone know who Volvo is owned by?

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                            • #29
                              Volvo are part of the Ford Family.
                              As are Jaguar, Aston Martin, Land Rover, Lincoln and Mercury. Ford also have a controlling share in Mazda.

                              Don't think i've missed any.
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                              • #30
                                WELL...
                                HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T HAVE THESE PIECE OF CRAP!!!

                                (hey, I'm a french guy, I'm driving a camaro)

                                The Xsara brand is Citroen.

                                Here in France, 80% of the cars are diesel powered and have a average of 90hp.

                                Max hp for a peugeot : 170hp (it's considered as THE ultimate sport car here... and my 3.8 smoke it)...
                                damn expensive too...

                                ok peugeot is great in rally, but there's 20 mechanics with the car ;)

                                Peugeot pronociation :

                                like : (it's difficult to explain:)
                                peuh - joe

                                or goofy car... as you want ;)
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