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    well, I never gotten any calls from LMPerfomance and my car was misfireing like crazy. Plus I didn't feel like paying for shipping to them back and then ordering another set, losing total of around 30$ just in shipping... so I just descided to go ahead and put 90 degree boots with some plastic insulators, which are the same kind for stock wires where wires run through the block under the alternator... well... I had em for about 24 hours and plastic insulators already melted to sh*t... I'm expecting around 1-2 weeks service life from these wires, due to the fact that they are just f*ucking wrong wires for 3800 series II engine... I'm tryin to pick up some 1000F heat sleeves for them, maybe to extend their life to a month or so.. but yeh, thanks to LMPerfomance, a broke college student is out of 70$... you think I'll buy sh*t from them again? F*uck no... *end rant [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] :mad:

  • #2
    How about contacting the admins first before attacking a sponsor?
    Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
    nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
    2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
    2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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    • #3
      Just stating the facts. Sponsor or not, they got misleading info on their website.

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      • #4
        umm i just put the 90 on my car today and with the extra wire i do see how your friing the boost ummm i ran mine under the headers and up to the plugs. but i will keep an eye out
        www.turbov6camaro.com
        1997 3800 Series II Camaro
        4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
        7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
        11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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        • #5
          Would a stright boot wire with a Multi-angle connector work better where you could bend them the way that you need to? Fire sleeving and boot protectors sound like good investments at this point.
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          • #6
            maybe it was operator error, ive had no problem with my taylors that have 90 degree boots. and have had them on for 5 months and 5000+ miles

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            • #7
              MSD 8 mm wires?
              W/ 90 degree boots?

              I run them with NO problems.

              It was VERY difficult to get them to click on to spark plugs and coil packs, but I got therm on there.

              No heat issues either.
              Race car - gone but not forgotten - 1997 firebird V6
              nitrous et & mph: 12.168 & 110.95 mph, n/a 13.746 & 96.38 mph
              2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8: 12.125, 116.45
              2010 Ford Taurus SHO: no times yet

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              • #8
                well, I never gotten any calls from LMPerfomance and my car was misfireing like crazy. Plus I didn't feel like paying for shipping to them back and then ordering another set, losing total of around 30$ just in shipping... so I just descided to go ahead and put 90 degree boots with some plastic insulators, which are the same kind for stock wires where wires run through the block under the alternator... well... I had em for about 24 hours and plastic insulators already melted to sh*t... I'm expecting around 1-2 weeks service life from these wires, due to the fact that they are just f*ucking wrong wires for 3800 series II engine... I'm tryin to pick up some 1000F heat sleeves for them, maybe to extend their life to a month or so.. but yeh, thanks to LMPerfomance, a broke college student is out of 70$... you think I'll buy sh*t from them again? F*uck no... *end rant
                thats absolutely no reason to not buy from them again. To me it sounds like you messed up somehow. I still have the stock wires on my car and they have 90* boots and the only two that are a tiny bit close to the headers are #2 and 4 cylinders because i broke one of the clips and they arent in perfect stock location anymore. I just put the stock metal heat shields on the boots and they're perfectly fine. BTW you probably would have gotten the same exact wires if you bought them from someone else so why do this to LMPerformance. It's not their fault they f-ed up. Its either MSD's problem or your own.
                <b>Black</b> 1998 Pontiac <i>Firebird</i> A-4 swap<br />271.4rwhp/259.4rwtq NA<br />13.30@102.44 <br /><a href=\"http://www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98\" target=\"_blank\">www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98</a>

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                • #9
                  did you guys put boot up or down? you can't put boot down on 2000 and above due to tubular manifolds... boot up just lays wires right on the engine, the hottest part of it... any other advice how I can prolong the life of these wires? Acutally.. anyone wants to buy them? They still work and if they will work for you I'll be happy to sell em to you.

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                  • #10
                    Guys remember he has tubular manifolds so it will be different then you guys with non-tubular manifolds.


                    Way I did mine. Straight boot. pluged and and the wire goes DIRECTLY straight away from the motor and anything hot then loops up and goes up to the coils.

                    1,000* msd sleeving, I have had mine on for 4 monthss 6,000 no problems, in wonderful sunny fl

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                    • #11
                      Taylon 8mm 90deg.. no problems.
                      00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ReodDai:
                        Taylon 8mm 90deg.. no problems.
                        I think taylors have different 90 degee design (which is more like 45 degree), which puts wires away from engine... msd is just plain straight 90 degree.

                        you runnin boots up, right? are wires touching engine at all?

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                        • #13
                          I've had accell 9000's 90* plugs with tubular manifolds for two years and no problems.
                          Justin<br /><a href=\"http://www.bass482.com/firebird/index.html\" target=\"_blank\"> 2000 Black Firebird A4 Y87<br /></a>170.2rwhp/203rwtq (SAE Corrected)

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                          • #14
                            Didn't we discuss this in a different thread? 90* boots work fine on all of our cars. 99- manifolds, 00+ manifolds, all aftermarket headers. I say this with 100% certainty.

                            Operator error. Learn how to install plug wires again instead of blaming someone else.. :rolleyes:

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                            • #15
                              You didn't answer the question: did you put the boot up or down?

                              You can't put boot down on tubular manifolds
                              You can only put boot up, and when you put boot up the wires touch the block.

                              Now, point out exactly where the operator error is in this, mr. know-it-all

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