Not Bush...Not Kerry...but rather Badnarik

[PewterBird]

Originally posted by ka50:
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Theres no temptation to try those drugs when theyre illegal.... :rolleyes:

It's still harder to get them when they are illegal, rather than when everytime you go to 7-11 to buy a hotdog you see heroin, cocaine and other drugs on sale.

So, you're having a bad day and you go to 7-11 to buy a candybar... oh **** look... cocaine on sale, I feel bad lemme get some.

You see the trend? I don't believe you're that stupid. </font>[/QUOTE]I dont believe you think you can reduce something as complex as drug use and the war on drugs to something so simplistic. </font>[/QUOTE]I guess you don't know anyone who was hooked on coke... It completely f*ucks up your mind.

and yes, cigs should be illegal. I say this as an ex-smoker who still has temptation to smoke time-to-time. I know if I take another puff, I'll be hooked again. </font>[/QUOTE]Im glad YOU made the choice what to put in YOUR body.

That is exactly what I am talking about.

People get addicted to many things, ie food. Would you want the Government regulating when and what type of cookie you may have?

If your friend want to get ****ed up on cocaine in the privacy of his own home, what harm does it do me.

Well the popular argument would be, he would do something crazy and start shooting people.

Well now we have problem, lets address the shooting problem. People go on rampages without the aid of drugs anyhow. Lets not lock up every non-violent addict, but "rehabilitate" all the violent rampage people.

[ka50]

Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
We should make anything that could harm someone illegal.

As for not knowing anyone who's a coke-head... I suggest you NOT pretend like you know anything about me.

Not everything, but drugs are whole different story.

How is trying cocaine and heroin, scientifically proven to hijack brain's reward pathways, which leads to extreme abuse, is in any way justified? Can you justify why it should be legal, besides the fact that people should choose what to put in their bodies?

The fact is that the majority of people don't realize the harm hard drugs can cause... by the time they realize, it's already too late.

[Skapimp]

I'm sorry, I live in a swing state, I don't want to throw my vote away. hahaha... if I lived in Cali still, I'd vote libertarian for sure.

[ka50]

Originally posted by PewterBird:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ka50:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ka50:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
Theres no temptation to try those drugs when theyre illegal.... :rolleyes:

It's still harder to get them when they are illegal, rather than when everytime you go to 7-11 to buy a hotdog you see heroin, cocaine and other drugs on sale.

So, you're having a bad day and you go to 7-11 to buy a candybar... oh **** look... cocaine on sale, I feel bad lemme get some.

You see the trend? I don't believe you're that stupid. </font>[/QUOTE]I dont believe you think you can reduce something as complex as drug use and the war on drugs to something so simplistic. </font>[/QUOTE]I guess you don't know anyone who was hooked on coke... It completely f*ucks up your mind.

and yes, cigs should be illegal. I say this as an ex-smoker who still has temptation to smoke time-to-time. I know if I take another puff, I'll be hooked again. </font>[/QUOTE]Im glad YOU made the choice what to put in YOUR body.

That is exactly what I am talking about.

People get addicted to many things, ie food. Would you want the Government regulating when and what type of cookie you may have?

If your friend want to get ****ed up on cocaine in the privacy of his own home, what harm does it do me.

Well the popular argument would be, he would do something crazy and start shooting people.

Well now we have problem, lets address the shooting problem. People go on rampages without the aid of drugs anyhow. Lets not lock up every non-violent addict, but "rehabilitate" all the violent rampage people. </font>[/QUOTE]You just don't seem to understand.

If you go to 7-11 and you see hard drugs on sale everyday, you will be more likely to try them and **** up your life, than if you didn't see them everyday and getting them required effort.

It's just how human psychology works. If you see something everyday, you're bound to try it. It's just sheer statistics.

Also, a lot of people are just plain stupid and think that if it's on sale at 7-11, it can't harm you. Well, by the time they realize what had happened, they are out of money and hooked on coke. How do you justify f*cking up those people's lifes?

If everyone was smart up around here, it'd be different... but the truth is there are more undeducated people than you can imagine. So, you want those coke addicts breaking into your house, so they can go to 7-11 to buy another dose of coke? I don't want that.

[PewterBird]

Originally posted by ka50:
You just don't seem to understand.

If you go to 7-11 and you see hard drugs on sale everyday, you will be more likely to try them and **** up your life, than if you didn't see them everyday and getting them required effort.

It's just how human psychology works. If you see something everyday, you're bound to try it. It's just sheer statistics.

Also, a lot of people are just plain stupid and think that if it's on sale at 7-11, it can't harm you. Well, by the time they realize what had happened, they are out of money and hooked on coke. How do you justify f*cking up those people's lifes?

If everyone was smart up around here, it'd be different... but the truth is there are more undeducated people than you can imagine. So, you want those coke addicts braking into your house, so they can go to 7-11 to buy another dose of coke? I don't want that. [/QB]

So your saying we should protect the uneducated people from themselves?

They would have a better chance of education with reallocation of funds.

People are addicted to pain killers and I don't see people breaking windows to get the 8.99 Tylonol from Wallgreens.

And if they did break your window to steal from you. You need to read the Libertarians policy on gun control. We take car of that.

[95Batmobile]

boobs.

BOOBS.

My addiction...

Protecting the uneducated from themselves sounds very similar to that word, oh what is it... yes, Oligarchy.

Boobs &gt; Oligarchy

[camaro_speedemon]

Originally posted by ka50:

If you go to 7-11 and you see hard drugs on sale everyday, you will be more likely to try them and **** up your life, than if you didn't see them everyday and getting them required effort.

It's just how human psychology works. If you see something everyday, you're bound to try it. It's just sheer statistics.

Also, a lot of people are just plain stupid and think that if it's on sale at 7-11, it can't harm you. Well, by the time they realize what had happened, they are out of money and hooked on coke. How do you justify f*cking up those people's lifes?

If everyone was smart up around here, it'd be different... but the truth is there are more undeducated people than you can imagine. So, you want those coke addicts breaking into your house, so they can go to 7-11 to buy another dose of coke? I don't want that.

You're argument has a fundemental flaw. If drugs are available at 7-11, then they would be regulated it's likely they would be much cheeper. And whats different then now? Crackheads are tricking their children for their next high.

And why is it the governments responsibility for someones bad choices? If someone gets hooked on coke, then it's their problem, not the governments.

And illicit drugs aren't that hard to come by. If I wanted to get any kind of drug, from weed to heroin, I can think of atleast 4 people I can call up and they could find me a supplier. And I am in no way shape or form involved in any kind of drugs. Hell, I don't even smoke weed.

Originally posted by GrigoryRasputin:
We should make anything that could harm someone illegal.

I guess that means we should ban advil since it can cause liver damage. And while we're at it, we need to ban pestecides because someone could be dumb enough to not follow directions. Hell, why stop there, lets ban porn. People can become addicted to porn and that can lead to sexually deviant behavior. What about high horsepower cars, people get into accidents all the time.

And I think he's more about making drugs 'tolerated', not legal.

[GrigoryRasputin]

More like we should just ban cars altogether.

[Rjor27]

i like his speech on illodian property, and all that stuff, intresting and makes alot of sense

[StudlyCamaro]

had i not been almost asleep because i had to be at work early the next morning, i would have been at his side when he and the mr cobb got attested during the second debate