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    Let's see if you can all discuss this viewpoint without Flaming each other.


    Columns
    Harvey Wasserman

    If Jesus returns, Karl Rove will kill him
    March 22, 2005

    As we enter another Easter Season, it's become all too obvious that if Christ
    returns, those who hate in his name will slime him, then kill him.

    Christ was a long-haired peace activist who would have been sickened to his soul
    by the war in Iraq. "Blessed are the peacemakers" Jesus said in his defining
    Sermon on the Mount. "Turn the other cheek...Love thy neighbor."

    Such hippie-radical ideals are the "Christian" right wing's worst nightmare.
    The GOP would never tolerate an upstart like Jesus gathering a following in the
    face of their corporate-fundamentalist crusade. These are self-proclaimed
    Christians who love power but would despise the actual Christ, just as they love
    a Zionist Israel but believe actual Jews are doomed to Hell.

    In the wake of Jesus's inspiring life of non-violent rebellion, a perverse
    liturgy weighted by twenty centuries of intolerant bloodthirsty bigotry has
    erupted in his name. Attacks on people of color, on nations with oil, on humans
    of the same gender who love each other, on youth who enjoy sex....all have
    become staples of a new fundamentalist crusade doing in Christ's name things
    that would have left him horrified.

    In large part through the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus came to be viewed as Divine
    because he spoke eloquently for a gracious, loving God.

    Karl Rove, Tom DeLay, George Bush and their corporate-fundamentalist minions
    speak to and for a very different kind of God, one at war with the Deity
    described by Christ.

    Bush-Rove's Master is a spiteful dictator, defined by hate and greed,
    intolerance and hypocrisy.

    Christ kicked the moneychangers out of the temple. Today's Republicans have
    enshrined them.

    Christ spoke of a God of compassion and joy.

    Today's "religious" right wingers worship Meanness of Spirit, a greed-driven
    war-loving totalitarianism. The only way to salvation, they say is THEIR way,
    through a nature-hating Authority that tramples all Jesus preached.

    As Tecumseh, the great Shawnee spirit-warrior, allegedly shouted at William
    Henry Harrison in the early 1800s: "When Jesus Christ came upon the Earth, you
    killed him. The son of your own God. And only after he was dead did you
    worship him and start killing those who would not. "

    If Christ came back today to resume preaching the Sermon on the Mount, Karl Rove
    would slime him in the media, then kill him outright, then turn his words into
    conservative hatespeak, then kill those who refuse to follow in his name.

    If Christ came back to organize against Bush's war, Rove's pet bloviators would
    shriek about Mary Magdalene. Isn't that her next to Christ in DaVinci's "Last
    Supper"? Wasn't she pregnant with Christ's bastard child. Who let her catch
    his blood dripping from the cross?

    Rush Limbaugh would demand to how this "Son of God" could have a relationship
    out of wedlock? Who was he to feed loaves and fishes to the undeserving poor,
    prolonging the existence of inferior racial stock? Who said he could attack
    those moneychangers who are the Elect of God and the sponsors of Rush's air
    time?

    Then O'Reilly would slime the Easter thing. A self-anointed "peace prophet"
    rising from the tomb? Poppycock, he'd say. Just another pinko hippie terrorist
    conspiracy theory.

    But if Christ persisted, and built a following like, say, Martin Luther King or
    Malcolm X, Cesar Chavez or Nelson Mandela...well....they'd kill him.

    They'd blame a patsy, like, say the Jews, or the terrorists, or the Willie
    Hortons. They'd designate a straw man to take the fall for the assassination.

    Rove would cloud his death in shadowy scandal. Stories would surface of
    unconfirmed debts. Or tainted investments. Maybe something about hashish, no
    stranger to the region.

    Hannity would feature some jilted lovers. There'd be rumors Jesus was gay. Talk
    of a love triangle. Ugly gossip about Mary and Judas. False leads about Jews
    wanting him dead. New doubts about that "virgin birth."

    Whatever it would take to slime the sheen off an anti-war "Son of God" and to
    turn his death tawdry, Rove would do.

    But would Jesus stand for the slaughter of 100,000 Iraqis in his name for oil
    and dubious Biblical prophecy? What would Christ think about a president in
    love with the torture chamber and electric chair? What would Jesus, who hated
    hypocrisy, say about a Bush who scampers back to prolong the life of a
    brain-dead woman, but who gleefully executed 150 people as governor and still
    more as president? How would Jesus cope with a self-proclaimed Divinity
    demanding the death penalty for children?

    And what would Jesus say about torture in American prisons, where much the same
    is being done to innocent inmates as was done to Christ himself on the way to
    Calvary? Mel Gibson's "Passion of the Christ" could serve as a documentary of
    the daily torture and slaughter among the 2.2 million prisoners held in the US
    military and civilian gulag, a barbaric prison system that makes the Romans'
    seem benign by comparison.

    Systematic sexual abuse by both prison guards and Catholic priests? The
    wholesale slaughter of Iraqi children? The debasement by corporate money of
    both church and state?

    Christ would lead the non-violent charge against these cornerstones of GOP
    rule---until Rove killed him.

    What would Jesus do about gay marriage? "Love they neighbor," he'd say.

    What business is it of those who use his name, he would ask, to prolong bigotry
    and intolerance just as 50 years ago those same cynical haters claimed Biblical
    sanction for laws preventing people of different colors from marrying one
    another.

    Christ would never stand for such bigotry. So Karl Rove would have him killed.

    Hitler claimed Christ was an Aryan supremacist. Now Rove, DeLay & company use
    him to sell dictatorial, greed-driven, gay-hating, war loving hypocrisy.

    Easter says otherwise. It should remind us that if Jesus returned to preach the
    Gandhian love-thy-neighbor subversion with which he challenged the Romans, Karl
    Rove would do what Pontius Pilate did.

    But Rove would be better at the spin.

    http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/7/2005/1096
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  • #2
    Did you ever read the Bible? Go read the Book of Revelation. Compare that to what is happening now. I truly believe that by the time Jesus' second coming, many people would be rejecting him and not believing. Because strongly, that's where we are heading.

    Europe, the once known vehicle of Christianity is no longer considering itself a Christian nation. Just look at the book of Revelation and you can't help but refer some of those passages to the European Unification and how this was predicted. Sorry don't have the Bible with me right now.

    You're forgetting that in Jesus time there were two types of people he grew up with. One were Symantic Jews and other were Romans.

    When Jesus came into teaching, he did not challenge the Roman occupation and their brutality towards his people. Remember the Romans were brutal. Pontius Pilate alone crucified thousands of Jews and imprisoned and displaced thousands more. As a matter of fact the word "excruciating" came from the latin word cruxifition. It describe how painful it is and how slow the death is by way of heart failure.

    Rather Jesus invited "ALL" people to come to him and receive his salvation. Ofcourse back then the way Jesus draws such crowd many wanted Him to be the one to crush the Romans. But it happen that way. The same way it won't happen to all those terrorist you failed to mentioned. But rather an end to all the garbage in this world.

    I truly believe when he comes again. He will extend the same invitation once more and this time it's for eternity.

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    • #3
      I'm also sure that Jesus would have condoned Saddam killing/gassing/raping/torturing the people under his rule as dictator. :rolleyes:
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      • #4
        I had a better response but my browser died so I have to retype this.

        Of course he would not have condoned that. But because Sadam did evil deeds does not mean that our leaders are righteous.

        I voted Orthodox Christian; however I think of Orthodox really as a member of the Orhtodox Church. I am a Methodist (Protestant) but considering the poll that was the option that seemed most right.

        I do not think that karl Rove would kill Jesus. However, it is clear that the so called conservatives and fundamentalists ignore the fundamental teachings of Jesus and the New Testament.

        "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
        The fundamentalists seem to believe in an eye for an eye, while Jesus taught us to turn the other cheek. They do lip service to the tennets of Christianity while obey few of them. I see many of them as the Pharisees of our time.

        On the last day, Jesus will say to those on His right hand, "Come enter the Kingdom. For I was hungry and you gave me feed, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was sick and you visited me." Then Jesus will turn to those on His left hand and say, "Depart from me because I was hungry and you did not feed me, I was thirsty and you did not give me to drink, I was sick and you did not visit me." These will ask Him, "When did we see You hungry, or thirsty or sick and did not come to Your help?". And Jesus will answer then, "Whatever you neglected to do unto one of the least of these, you neglected to do unto Me!"
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        • #5
          Sorry, my comment may have been out of line. I won't delete the post as I don't believe in taking back what I said, only apoligizing for it.
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          • #6
            Wow. That was awesome. I have never even thought about things from that point of view. The most conservative people that worship jesus would probably be condemned by him.
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            • #7
              That column is awesome. Absolutely points out the hypocrisy of organized religion.
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              • #8
                as if the liberal "secular" left wing would be perceived any different.

                This mean that FDR and the acting Congress at the time would have been removed and tried for crimes against Gemany, Japan, and Italy if the "morality" of today was imposed upon them.

                I read a phrase once, saying "Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right". Now-a-days, it seems all I hear is "Never let you prevent me from what I deem is right"

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                • #9
                  Let he without sin growith the first rock, and i shall smokith it.

                  Chappele 8:1-7

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