Checkout Hyundai new 3.8 V6 engine

[Mighty Thor]

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicle/av...oon/azera.aspx

OK, now I have to say GM suck :D

3.9 240 hp from GM is looking dull now.

I've own 3 Hyundai: Accent, Sonata and right now '03 Santa Fe.

Hyundai has not disappointed me at all. I love their no BS warranty. I've only used it once so far.

[ October 26, 2005, 02:17 AM: Message edited by: Mighty Thor ]

[98Camaro3.8]

Definitely has enough airbags. Half the price of the car must be for the airbag system. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Loochy88]

oh good, now they can put it in one of their rear wheel drive sports cars that i care about [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[camaro_speedemon]

Hyundai's suck. They're far below GM in build quality.

Besides, GM is pushing 260HP out of their 3.8 to.

[vanbibber]

im impressed.

[Mighty Thor]

Originally posted by camaro_speedemon:
Hyundai's suck. They're far below GM in build quality.

The early model year of Hyundai were terrible, but the newer ones are nice.

The Accent and Sonata one I use to own was way better than the Civic and Sentra I use to have. I'm not even going to mention Cavalier.

It's actually more car for what I paid for.

I just read Popular Science. GM is experimenting with Variable Timing on the 3.9. In a year or so, this engine might actually get more HP with better fuel economy.

[camaro_speedemon]

Originally posted by Mighty Thor:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camaro_speedemon:
Hyundai's suck. They're far below GM in build quality.

The early model year of Hyundai were terrible, but the newer ones are nice.

The Accent and Sonata one I use to own was way better than the Civic and Sentra I use to have. I'm not even going to mention Cavalier.

It's actually more car for what I paid for.

I just read Popular Science. GM is experimenting with Variable Timing on the 3.9. In a year or so, this engine might actually get more HP with better fuel economy. </font>[/QUOTE]I think the current CTS V6 has some kind of VVT. Or maybe they havent used that motor yet, and we're thinking of the same motor.

[Matt G]

Besides, GM is pushing 260HP out of their 3.8 to.

Did I get ripped off or something when I bought my car? my 3.8 only puts out 200hp [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[KBeezy]

uhh, GM has had their own version of VVT for quite some time. Ever heard of the Pontiac Vibe by any chance? Same damn thing as the Toyota Matrix w/ VVT.


Besides, yes, the Cadillac DOHC V6 &gt; Hyundai


Cadillac DOHC 2.8 V6 has 200hp, the Cadillac 3.6 has 255... And both have torque near the peak HP #s [img]smile.gif[/img]

[BLLDOGG]

Originally posted by Matt G:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Besides, GM is pushing 260HP out of their 3.8 to.

Did I get ripped off or something when I bought my car? my 3.8 only puts out 200hp [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]considering your motor was designed in the early 90s when it was still cool to put fuel injection on the side of a car [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

[ October 26, 2005, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: BLLDOGG ]

[02PewterBird]

Originally posted by KBeezy:
uhh, GM has had their own version of VVT for quite some time. Ever heard of the Pontiac Vibe by any chance? Same damn thing as the Toyota Matrix w/ VVT.

And the same engine that Toyota designed. The Vibe uses the Toyota engine that I think originally debuted in the 2000 Celica.

[greatsave9]

Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Matt G:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Besides, GM is pushing 260HP out of their 3.8 to.

Did I get ripped off or something when I bought my car? my 3.8 only puts out 200hp [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]considering your motor was designed in the early 90s when it was still cool to put fuel injection on the side of a car [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Exactly, its alittle over 10 years now since it was an option in '95 for the F-bodies. Its funny people still compare cars to Camaros and Trans Ams etc.... with the LS1 that was made in freakin '97 (Vette) and they still lose to it [img]smile.gif[/img]

Plus GM has a 242-horsepower 3.9L V6 engine

[Shirl]

Hey, that's a pretty nice car! :cool:

[camaroincal]

It's simple really. All these car makers are doing to raise the hp on these smaller engines is jacking up the compression ratio to 10.0:1 + That's the main thing. Then they have to use Premium fuel though.

[shenanigans]

ehh... my friend had a '00 hyundai, it consumed the entire oil pan of oil between oil changes, no "major" leaks. Guess its ok though it only had like 55k on it.