Hey Bike guys....(probably one of the sadder storeis on the net)

[Skapimp]

You can't live you're life with fear... but fear is what keeps us alive.

You have to take the odds... the odds are a lot higher to die from riding a motorcycle than driving in a car.

Sad sad story though.

[98goldbird]

For those who are mad that he took his life and left his 7 year old; Don't you think that there are other reasons that we dont know of regarding why he did that. How traumatizing is it for a 7yr old kid to go through all that and watch his dad suffer. The guy put his kid before his creditors. He was losing money like mad, and the life insurance would definantly help out. I dont know if the kid is his G/F's or not, but say it is. He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't. But seriously, I hate it when peole make blunt comments or remarks without thinking of the situations around incidents. "Were you in his shoes? Do you know the whole story?" All those comments do is portray you as someone who thinks they are better because "you woulda handled the situation differently." But how can you think you can handle it differently if you don't even know what the WHOLE situation is? I dont know, maybe I just look into things too much, or maybe some people don't look into them enough.

[jc Kyle]

good call 98bird

[MustangEater8251]

whole thing abotu living life in fear I agree soemwhat...

but main reason why people get hit on bikes, is people don't see them. You are waaay more likely to not be seen on a bike then in a car...

and you get hit by a car... you fair alot better in another car then on a bike.

You may say, yeah but you can get hit by a semi-truck not my chance surviving that... when you are on a bike, every car on the road is like a semi-truck, but the drivers didn't need special licenses to drive them.

[ellik]

I have to agree with 98bird.

I think it is an agreement that we all feel sorry for this man and his family, that the blame is that of the nissan p/u, and that we whish the accident had never happened.
having been clipped by a car and going down ot 65-70 and skidding down the highway, I know the incredible pain or rash and missing flesh (or so I thought) and my injuries were relatively minor... nothing broken, just lots of missing skin. I cringed while I read this, had tears well up in my eyes and became nautious all at once. as the guy stated, it is unfortunate that he survived the accident, only to be left a shell of a man, likely never to recover, riddled with infection that has to be surgically removed.
I am not a proponent of suicide by any means, especially leaving the responsibility of a family, but I can only imagine in my worst nightmares what he was living through.... what his family was living through.
A very sad story indeed.

[BobsSilverSix]

Originally posted by 98goldbird:
For those who are mad that he took his life and left his 7 year old; Don't you think that there are other reasons that we dont know of regarding why he did that. How traumatizing is it for a 7yr old kid to go through all that and watch his dad suffer. The guy put his kid before his creditors. He was losing money like mad, and the life insurance would definantly help out. I dont know if the kid is his G/F's or not, but say it is. He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't. But seriously, I hate it when peole make blunt comments or remarks without thinking of the situations around incidents. "Were you in his shoes? Do you know the whole story?" All those comments do is portray you as someone who thinks they are better because "you woulda handled the situation differently." But how can you think you can handle it differently if you don't even know what the WHOLE situation is? I dont know, maybe I just look into things too much, or maybe some people don't look into them enough.

I agree, makes a very good point.

['94firebirdv6]

that is probably the worst thing i have ever heard.

A good friend of mine was riding a wheelie on his bike doing 65-70 mph on the highway when he hit a patch of gravel and lost it. He was wearing a helmet and a leather jacket. He skidded for close to 300ft and slammed his head onto the pavement, the helmet saved his life. It was cracked and had been worn down to within a 1/4 of an inch away from his head from skidding on the road. He had surgeries and after 8 screws and a few steel rods and pins in his legs along with some skin grafting, lot to mention physical thereapy every day for close to 6 months he recovered.
i seriously doubt you will find me ever riding a motorcycle after hearing this.

[Snuffalofogus]

Originally posted by 98goldbird:
For those who are mad that he took his life and left his 7 year old; Don't you think that there are other reasons that we dont know of regarding why he did that. How traumatizing is it for a 7yr old kid to go through all that and watch his dad suffer. The guy put his kid before his creditors. He was losing money like mad, and the life insurance would definantly help out. I dont know if the kid is his G/F's or not, but say it is. He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't. But seriously, I hate it when peole make blunt comments or remarks without thinking of the situations around incidents. "Were you in his shoes? Do you know the whole story?" All those comments do is portray you as someone who thinks they are better because "you woulda handled the situation differently." But how can you think you can handle it differently if you don't even know what the WHOLE situation is? I dont know, maybe I just look into things too much, or maybe some people don't look into them enough.

so your saying its better that the kid not have a dad, rather than live in a poor home?

what kind of rationale is that? bills can be paid off, people cant be raised from the dead.

life>money

[fabolous24]

For those who are mad that he took his life and left his 7 year old; Don't you think that there are other reasons that we dont know of regarding why he did that. How traumatizing is it for a 7yr old kid to go through all that and watch his dad suffer. The guy put his kid before his creditors. He was losing money like mad, and the life insurance would definantly help out. I dont know if the kid is his G/F's or not, but say it is. He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't. But seriously, I hate it when peole make blunt comments or remarks without thinking of the situations around incidents. "Were you in his shoes? Do you know the whole story?" All those comments do is portray you as someone who thinks they are better because "you woulda handled the situation differently." But how can you think you can handle it differently if you don't even know what the WHOLE situation is? I dont know, maybe I just look into things too much, or maybe some people don't look into them enough.

Sorry but i disagree, money can be replaced, a childs father cannot. And im sure his child was a lot more worried about his dad getting better than how the bills were going to be payed this month.

[jc Kyle]

do more crashes on bikes come from other cars hitting bikes.. or from bike riders being careless?

[Camarorulz]

I read the whole thing and was horrified. I feel bad for his son, but to criticize his decision to take his life is not very empathetic. The best thing he could have done for his son was to not ever get on a bike in the first place, but that's irrelevant now. Bikes are many times more dangerous than cars, PERIOD. I hope he is in a better place.

[95Batmobile]

Originally posted by Snuffalofogus:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98goldbird:
For those who are mad that he took his life and left his 7 year old; Don't you think that there are other reasons that we dont know of regarding why he did that. How traumatizing is it for a 7yr old kid to go through all that and watch his dad suffer. The guy put his kid before his creditors. He was losing money like mad, and the life insurance would definantly help out. I dont know if the kid is his G/F's or not, but say it is. He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't. But seriously, I hate it when peole make blunt comments or remarks without thinking of the situations around incidents. "Were you in his shoes? Do you know the whole story?" All those comments do is portray you as someone who thinks they are better because "you woulda handled the situation differently." But how can you think you can handle it differently if you don't even know what the WHOLE situation is? I dont know, maybe I just look into things too much, or maybe some people don't look into them enough.

so your saying its better that the kid not have a dad, rather than live in a poor home?

what kind of rationale is that? bills can be paid off, people cant be raised from the dead.

life&gt;money </font>[/QUOTE]If you red it again, he says "He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't." At 7, if the gf took custody and found another guy, the kid would probably be calling him "dad" in no time.. he's not even in the concrete operational stage of reasoning yet.

Sometimes, when you're in that situation, the mind convinces itself people will be better off without so I can't say I blame him for what he did... Like goldbird said, we weren't in his shoes and we don't know the whole story, so we can't condemn him for his actions.

['94firebirdv6]

like eric said....i hope he's in a better place but i knid of doubt it after he took his own life.

i read that at about 11:30 or so last night and couldn't sleep

[Christian]

Originally posted by '94firebirdv6:
like eric said....i hope he's in a better place but i knid of doubt it after he took his own life.

i read that at about 11:30 or so last night and couldn't sleep

Touching, man really. Made me think about my little boy and how blessed we all are to be typing about this rather than living it. And I beg to differ about him not going to "a better place" just because he took his own life, but i value your opinion just as well. Bottom line....be grateful pimps, it could always and I mean always be worse. Good day.
-Scott

[Snuffalofogus]

Originally posted by 95Batmobile:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Snuffalofogus:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98goldbird:
For those who are mad that he took his life and left his 7 year old; Don't you think that there are other reasons that we dont know of regarding why he did that. How traumatizing is it for a 7yr old kid to go through all that and watch his dad suffer. The guy put his kid before his creditors. He was losing money like mad, and the life insurance would definantly help out. I dont know if the kid is his G/F's or not, but say it is. He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't. But seriously, I hate it when peole make blunt comments or remarks without thinking of the situations around incidents. "Were you in his shoes? Do you know the whole story?" All those comments do is portray you as someone who thinks they are better because "you woulda handled the situation differently." But how can you think you can handle it differently if you don't even know what the WHOLE situation is? I dont know, maybe I just look into things too much, or maybe some people don't look into them enough.

so your saying its better that the kid not have a dad, rather than live in a poor home?

what kind of rationale is that? bills can be paid off, people cant be raised from the dead.

life&gt;money </font>[/QUOTE]If you red it again, he says "He was prob thinking by doing this, his G/F could find another suitor to support the kid, since he can't." At 7, if the gf took custody and found another guy, the kid would probably be calling him "dad" in no time.. he's not even in the concrete operational stage of reasoning yet.

Sometimes, when you're in that situation, the mind convinces itself people will be better off without so I can't say I blame him for what he did... Like goldbird said, we weren't in his shoes and we don't know the whole story, so we can't condemn him for his actions. </font>[/QUOTE]but you guys are basing that on the assumption that it IS his and his gf kid. IF its not, then that poor kid is f*cked.

and having another 'suitor' come in may help initially, but the kid will always remember that his dad killed himself.

like i said, i would much rather live in a house that wasnt well to do (cause there is always aid if you need it) than to have my dad kill himself and to grow up without a father.

you guys are trying to condem those that despise the fact that he killed himself because we dont know the whole story, yet the majority of you are praising him on the same account.