Denver: New Amsterdam???

[camaroincal]

Inhaling smoke is not good for you. [img]smile.gif[/img] Why do you think you want to cough your brains out after taking a huge hit of weed? =D

[camaroincal]

And as far as it being safe...Yes, it's definitely a non-violent drug, especially when compared to alchohol. Although a pot head may get a bit violent if all the weed is gone or there are no more munchies left. =)

And, from experience, it throws off your perception of almost everything. Instead of driving being second nature, you find yourself having to concentrate extra hard just to drive normally. etc. etc. It also ****s with your short-term memory for sure. Prolly because your mind wanders so much when you are high or something yada yada...lol I better stop before I get flamed by some pothead. =)

Well, one more thing. I've witnessed the long-term effects of pot use on my dad. He's 50 and he still smokes. Now, he's a smart *** guy for sure. BUT, he has terrible fine motor skills and his short term memory is really sad. He gets frustrated all of the time forgetting little things. More than your average non-pot smoking person.

[01MaroIL]

Loochy: ill give some love for beer. i love beer. i used to hate it back in the day, but now i appreciate the taste of a good beer.

Now back to your regularly scheduled pot argument [img]graemlins/popcorn.gif[/img]

[vanbibber]

well if anything out of all of this. supermarkets and restaraunts are going to make a killing. all those pot heads have to eat.


personally i think its a bad idea. before you know it you'll be able to smoke weed where ever you want. but i have to take my A$$ outside to smoke a cig? [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img] i cant stand the smell of weed.

Denvers new motto: Pass the bong dude.

[SpeedingFirebird]

Originally posted by Loochy88:
Legalize it and tax the crap out of it. hell, make it more expensive than tobacco stuff. the potheads will still buy it, then we can give the cash to schools, or the army or something. :D

Ugh, I hate to hear stuff like that. For one, we pay over 50% of our income in various taxes. Hidden taxes hear and there are politician's ways of raising taxes without people getting upset.

More importantly, it sets social policy. Smoking became "un-cool" so people kept voting to tax the crap out of it. The problem is, typically it is the poor who smoke. Furthermore, since it is an addiction, people will spend their money on smokes than on food for their kids(I have seen it.) Finally, there are mental illnesses out there where people cannot control their urge to smoke. (e-mail if you really want to know). So we are taxing the bejesus out of people already on medicare and foodstamps who cannot quit. It's disgusting, really.

Taxing of substances should only be used for helping the abusers. Smoke taxes should go to quit help centers (Politicians used to frame it that way, but then you hear gov x say "we can pay for that new highway with higher cig taxes".

We should not be setting solcial policy with people's taxes.


A different note. I read in a post that a drink a day is harmful. Several studies have shown that a drink a day can be helpful.

Oh, to stay on topic. Pot makes people do stupid things (as does booze). We are too far gone to get rid of booze, but why introduce another substance. It's out, keep it out.

[95fbirdkid]

its seems like you are all argueing that we shouldnt make it legal b/c people shouldn't do it... news flash! people do it. Making it legal isnt going to force people who are against weed to smoke it, it will only stop people who already smoke it from getting in trouble for it. People already drive around high and that ****, its not like making it legal will cause people to do that more often. Alcohol is legal but driving under the influence is not, what would make you think weed wouldnt be the same. Pot being illegal is doing nothing but using up police resources. Its not stopping people from growing it, selling it, using it... so why not make it legal, save on funds that are going towards arresting people that have done nothing wrong other than possesing a plant, and add tax revenue? I fail to see where anti-legalization people have any solid arguement other than "NO, i dont like it so no one else should"

[Loochy88]

The problem is, typically it is the poor who smoke.

there might be a larger percentage of poor people than middle class, but i see plenty of well off kids smoking the stuff here at school.

and people are going to smoke it whether or not its illegal.

[Loochy88]

Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
Alcohol is legal but driving under the influence is not, what would make you think weed wouldnt be the same.

driving under the influence of any of the drugs mentioned is illegal, and always will be, no matter what substances become legalized and what ones dont.

[JusFlyinBy]

Originally posted by 95fbirdkid:
I fail to see where anti-legalization people have any solid arguement other than "NO, i dont like it so no one else should"

I agree... Because thats all Im getting from those comments.

[BLLDOGG]

everyone can argue till they die about what weed does to your body, the economy, and others but those still arguing on the side of weed must either be doing it or not know someone who has been hurt by it but thats the same with any drug, alcohol, cigs or anything. by the way, i hate coffee too

[L32Projekt]

Originally posted by Fbody3400:
I'd hope you say the same thing about drinking. A LOT of people smoke weed. You'd be suprised how many people are stoned constantly.

I would, and do on a constant basis. On my base we bust every single person that's DUI. No ifs, ands or buts.

kinetic
You bring up a good point and you must excuse my ignorance. The loss of short-term memory can't be a good thing, however.

I see a lot of good arguments here, and I still don't think it's right, but if people vote in the measure and it's what they want then I'm not going to try and stomp on their civil liberties. I won't do it, and it's still illegal federally (as far as I know, that crap can change quick as hell though with the way things are going), but none of my troops better not be dumb enough to think that because they're stationed in Denver, it gives them the right to smoke weed.

Carry on folks, but admit it... weed STINKS bad.

[SpeedingFirebird]

Originally posted by Loochy88:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> The problem is, typically it is the poor who smoke.

there might be a larger percentage of poor people than middle class, but i see plenty of well off kids smoking the stuff here at school.

and people are going to smoke it whether or not its illegal. </font>[/QUOTE]I was referring to cigarettes with that comment. The majority of smokers tend to be lower-middle class. Your mileage may vary.

[BLLDOGG]

i really have to disagree with that. i find it hard to choose which class smokes more cause alot of different people in each class smokes.

[01MaroIL]

A lot of my friends smoke and they arent poor by any means. My parents smoke and we are a middle class family. So by that i will have to agree with BLLDOGG.

[BLLDOGG]

by the way, i cant believe we have gotten this far without someone really getting steamed to the point of this being locked