Police ticket pregnant wife delivery driver, nurse claims

[ravenp]

Originally posted by Linxs:
To be honest with you I would take option 2 and wait for the ambulance. Let me explain why...

If my friend is bleeding to death he will not be able to apply preasure to the wound and prevent masive amounts of blood from leaving his body. I can call 911 and inform them of the accedent while I am appling preasure to his wound. I can apply a tourniquet. More than likely he'll go into shock and you'll get no help from him.

Try to do all that and drive to the hospitol, and your friend might not make it....

Exactly, i'm not trained for that sort of thing. Aside from possibly killing him sooner, or perhaps doing something that would lead to permanent parallysis or at least worse injury, I could be opening myself up to a hefty lawsuit from the family if he dies at my hands.

For what you're suggesting to be realistic, we'd all need proper training... which I really should have but currently don't :(

[Linxs]

I would RATHER have waited for the ambulance to arrive when my coworker fell... but I took the law into my own hands, so to speak, when the authorities failed to react in time. That's what a good citizen does.

Also, that's how a good citizen gets sued. I would agree with you 100% but there are people out there just looking to cash in on every mishap! Example (I use this cause everyone has heard about it) The old lady and the hot coffee... spilt(and burned her) in her car while she was driving... I am guilty of stoping and helping people out from time to time. If that guy would have sued you, you'd look at it differently. All that has to happen for that to happen is the Doctor saying it's possible more damage was caused by moving him in your car, The guy can claim mental insanity due to the pain and just wanting it to stop (could be his reason for why he accepted your offer to take him to the hospitol). You may laugh but look at it with an open mind, keeping in mind all the silly/outragous things that go to court...

[Linxs]

Originally posted by ravenp:

For what you're suggesting to be realistic, we'd all need proper training... which I really should have but currently don't :(

No not really, While you are on the phone with the 911 operator she/he will instruct you on how to apply preasure to the wound. Now to apply the tourniquet, that's a different story. Yes you can apply one and yes it's not very hard, they can explain over the phone how to do it. All I am saying is it's an option. Driving a friend to the hospitol can and usually makes things worse with large scale life threatening wounds. (yes, I have make this kind of judgement before, lets just say I was not in Norfolk for the scenary, I was stationed there, though I did not spend a whole lot of time there).

[Skapimp]

What people on this board aren't realizing.. especially ka50, is that ambulances aren't just a ride to the hospital... they're paramedics. They give you care THE SECOND the arrive... and often times that is what saves your life.

According to a few websites I just found online, the national average response time for an ambulance is 6-8 minutes... that's not very long if you think about it. By the time you get your keys, you get the person in the car.... that's a few minutes. So waiting 3 extra minutes to get urgent care is a lot better than driving 15 minutes, risking your life and more injury, and then getting care.

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by Linxs:
Also, that's how a good citizen gets sued. I would agree with you 100% but there are people out there just looking to cash in on every mishap! Example (I use this cause everyone has heard about it) The old lady and the hot coffee... spilt(and burned her) in her car while she was driving... I am guilty of stoping and helping people out from time to time. If that guy would have sued you, you'd look at it differently. All that has to happen for that to happen is the Doctor saying it's possible more damage was caused by moving him in your car, The guy can claim mental insanity due to the pain and just wanting it to stop (could be his reason for why he accepted your offer to take him to the hospitol). You may laugh but look at it with an open mind, keeping in mind all the silly/outragous things that go to court...

Not anymore. They're called "Good Samaritan Laws" and they have been passed in most states over the past fifteen years because of this. People were dying and bystanders were afraid to give help because they didn't want to screw something up and get sued.

If I ever hurt myself in public I really hope someone standing nearby helps. And if I say "could you please drive me to the hospital down the street" I sincerely hope they comply.

Our society cannot function if everyone just sits on their asses and expects the "proper officials" to do everything. The public needs to do their part. This applies to police in distress as well. There was a police officer here in Fairfax County a few years back that was directing traffic at a light. He was hit by a car and suffered a severe gash with heavy bleeding. No one stopped, no one helped. Everyone assumed that someone else had already called 911. Other people were just afraid, others were just selfish *******s in a hurry who didn't "have time" to stop. He ended up dying there because authorities did not find out until sometime around an hour later and by the time backup/an ambulance arrived he had bled to death.

Sure, try to leave that work to the authorities. But there are times when citizens need to step up to bat. They can't do everything.

[ellik]

so what im getting out of this thread is that should kids be in my future, when my wife says "its time to go" the majority of you think I should just call the ambulance and then settle back into the sofa and crack open a fresh beer? I mean from what your saying, paramedics can get there in 6-8 minutes, I can stay comfy in just my bathrobe and boxers and not deal with hospitals at all, let alone traffic and spoiling my leather seats.

[Skapimp]

How about instead of pointing out every time ambulance fail, we talk about how many hundreds and thousands of times they save lives?

Just becuase help is on the way, doesn't mean you shouldn't do what you can while they come.

[ravenp]

Originally posted by ellik:
so what im getting out of this thread is that should kids be in my future, when my wife says "its time to go" the majority of you think I should just call the ambulance and then settle back into the sofa and crack open a fresh beer? I mean from what your saying, paramedics can get there in 6-8 minutes, I can stay comfy in just my bathrobe and boxers and not deal with hospitals at all, let alone traffic and spoiling my leather seats.

Uh, no... just don't speed and endanger other lives ;) It's a judgement call...if you can handle getting her there(including if you dont' make it and things happen in the car) driving safely, go for it.

Otherwise, let the trained people deal with it and use your lamase(sp) training to make her comfortable etc until they arrive. This isnt' a new thing...it's been happening since before cars were here :D

Midwife's are an option too if you dont' have enough faith in the ambulance/hospital.

[pontiac nino]

All I have to say is not all 911 calls have a quick response, mostly it depends on where you live, if you know they're slow bostards, Id seriously take the situation in my own hands if it was a medical emergency. Just my .02

[token sebring]

unless there are major complications (in which case I hope to hell she's on bed rest in the hospital), chances are, when a woman's water breaks, it's going to be uncomfortable, but you should still have time to get to a hospital in plenty of time to start waiting through hours of labor... while I can't say for sure since I've never been pregnant or given birth, babies don't usually just pop right out.... unless it's 5pm on a friday afternoon (in which case, yeah, I'm calling an ambulance), i imagine my husband could get me to the hospital safely without breaking every law out there... i think though that men tend to lose their normally calm and rational thinking when it comes to their wives giving birth, which is understandable, especially if it's their first child... I imagine "AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHHHHH - oh my god this hurts so badly. I don't want to have a baby in this car" would tend to add a little pressure to the gas pedal, even if it's not likely to happen [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ravenp]

Originally posted by ellik:
so what im getting out of this thread is that should kids be in my future, when my wife says "its time to go" the majority of you think I should just call the ambulance and then settle back into the sofa and crack open a fresh beer? I mean from what your saying, paramedics can get there in 6-8 minutes, I can stay comfy in just my bathrobe and boxers and not deal with hospitals at all, let alone traffic and spoiling my leather seats.

Uh, no... just don't speed and endanger other lives ;) It's a judgement call...if you can handle getting her there(including if you dont' make it and things happen in the car) driving safely, go for it.

Otherwise, let the trained people deal with it and use your lamase(sp) training to make her comfortable etc until they arrive. This isnt' a new thing...it's been happening since before cars were here :D

Midwife's are an option too if you dont' have enough faith in the ambulance/hospital.

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by ellik:
so what im getting out of this thread is that should kids be in my future, when my wife says "its time to go" the majority of you think I should just call the ambulance and then settle back into the sofa and crack open a fresh beer? I mean from what your saying, paramedics can get there in 6-8 minutes, I can stay comfy in just my bathrobe and boxers and not deal with hospitals at all, let alone traffic and spoiling my leather seats.

[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] Thank you!

Originally posted by ravenp:
Uh, no... just don't speed and endanger other lives ;) It's a judgement call...if you can handle getting her there(including if you dont' make it and things happen in the car) driving safely, go for it.

Driving your pregnant wife to the hospital is the oldest classic story/excuse to speed in the book... it has been happening since there were hospitals and cars. We're not talking about doing 130 in school zones. We're talking about driving "slightly aggressive" at 10-20 mph over and a cop taking his sweet time writing you a ticket if you get caught. For a cop to deliberately take his time is BS and grounds for a massive lawsuit. Yeah, sure, if the guy was doing 100 mph over the limit stop him... but I don't think most responsible expectant fathers would drive that fast with their wives in the car. Stop thinking extreme and start thinking real world here for a minute, folks.

[Domestic Violence]

Originally posted by Blue Flame V6:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Domestic Violence:
now that you've responded, i guess it's time to lock this one too. if there were less dumbazzes like yourself, we wouldn't need cops would we?

Ok can people please drop the personal attacks? you both really need to grow up DV you made the comment that he attacks you in every post he can well I think this is one that you are starting so both of you just grow up and drop it! </font>[/QUOTE]

Originally posted by ka50:
You aren't godsend, dumbass, you were granted autority by CITIZENS. When are you going to realize this?

the thread was fine until this. when this BS stops, i'll stop. until then, one of us will just have to be banned. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Machiavelli]

Stefan, how do you prove if the cop took time deliberately?

[Domestic Violence]

as far as childbirth, what are you going to do if she begins to have it in the car and you're still 10 minutes away in traffic? you're done.

i've stopped guys rushing to the hospital because their wife is having the kid. i'm not going to ticket for that as long as they're not grossly exceeding the limit or driving terribly. while it isn't an emergency for him to be there, it is still important enough to that person for me to overlook the violation. what good would that guy do if he got into a wreck and now the wife is having the kid and the husband is in poor condition in the next room?