New Laws Needed For Businesses and Workers

[BirdOfPrey01]

Okay, I'm tired of all these background resource companies ruining the lives of people.

If you don't get hired because you have a felony, or you have stolen from your previous job, or you are not qualified. Thats fine!

But these resource services have gone to far.

They list all your previous jobs, what you did exactly, why you quit or got fired and they rate your skills.

This is bullsh|t! Complete bullsh|t, so what? I got a ticket for disorderly conduct when I was 17, and I got fired from Subway and Quit walmart to return to school and this isnt good enough for a 7.00$ Job at the Home Owner's Bargain Outlet.

What I find funny is the company actually has me goto an interview. Then they pay to send me to a lab to be drug tested. Then they make me sit and do a dumby test with common sense questions.

I pass all of this...

Then 3 weeks letter a letter in the mail saying they will not hire me because of the background check. It came up back.

So basically I went through 4 tests for a $7 per hour part time job. F*cking Rediculous!

So they waste my time, and they waste their own money. And they still do not hire me?

It should be against the law to hold background information without my consent unless of course it is a crimnial background check for a felony. Felonies and Theft should only be shown, nothing else.

Im not being hired because of a fight I got into 4 years ago. Obviously if I had a fight problem I wouldnt have just one on my record.

Someone needs to step in and say enough is enough.

I am finding that there is so many jobs available, but they have such high standards and treat their employees like garbage.

So, I am going to call this guy tommorrow and ask him. What qualification do I need to be able to work for his company that pays its employees $7 per hour.

Does anyone else see this as a growing problem?

America sets a standard, I am considered to be set below that standard. So does this mean I can never get a job again? I'm 20 years old for god sakes. I got 40 years atleast to go.

And people wonder why so many young adults resort to theft and drug dealing?

Well, what im comming to here is...

The government needs to set laws that protect people from keeping other peoples records without consent unless it is court ordered or severe criminal charges.

[BirdOfPrey01]

I have also had 4 other companies say they will not hire me because of my misdemeandor (disorderly conduct)

Kohls
AquaGlass
Carpet Cleaning
Holiday INN

What's funny is my mom is a cop, and she knows people on the police force with disorderly conduct, DUI, and many other misdemeandor charges, smoking the herb too!

[BLLDOGG]

i got falsy accused of stealing money from my old job because the manager was stealing money from my draw at the end of the night for alcohol and drug money. i wonder if that is why i cant get a job, but i never hear anything about background checks. atleast here in OK, you cant ask why the person got fired or quite or anything, just when they worked there, and maybe if they were fired.

[crazyralph]

Certain businesses I can see not hiring because of the the aggravated assault charge. As far as a background check with stating why you were fired or quit I don't know of any companies that will release this info. Usually they will only give your dates of employment because they're afraid of getting sued. I've had to do checks on potential employees and I guess it depends on the business. I had to do it for a bank. In this state anyway we had to reject people with any criminal history due to bonding and insurance issues. That would include your misdemenaor assault.

[BirdOfPrey01]

Well criminal history is one thing. I will get mine expunged this winter for sure I already got word.

But the other information such as where you worked and what you did is uncalled for.

I never gave any permission to let a company document this information.

BLLDOGG, its quite possible.
I haven't got my report back yet, but I was accussed for stealing too, but I didnt steal anything ever.

And thats what i thought too, dates of employment only. But It seems this one gives alot more.

[ November 05, 2004, 02:23 AM: Message edited by: BirdOfPrey01 ]

[5SpeedBird]

can you reccomend or tell me a name of these background resource companies???

I have had so many job in my life I can't remember anymore.

[crazyralph]

Originally posted by BirdOfPrey01:
Well criminal history is one thing. I will get mine expunged this winter for sure I already got word.

But the other information such as where you worked and what you did is uncalled for.

I never gave any permission to let a company document this information.

BLLDOGG, its quite possible.
I haven't got my report back yet, but I was accussed for stealing too, but I didnt steal anything ever.

And thats what i thought too, dates of employment only. But It seems this one gives alot more.

It's your former company releasing this to the service go to them first. Most will only give dates of employment and job title. Speak with the human resources and ask what their policy is on employent verification.

[ka50]

I agree. Where did all the privacy went to? Maybe I got fired, because a manager was an idiot. Or maybe I quit after working 1 month, because I needed to. I don't believe it's fair to make assumptions (which is always negative) about why you were terminated or quit from your previous jobs. Especailly when you're just enering the job market (18-28).

I used to work at the bank and tension between me and manager go to such a high point that I simply walked out one day. I worked there for 4 months. Now, I liked that job and perfomed my job functions almost perfectly, BUT I was on manager's personal dislike list and the ***** kept bugging me every day! She even told me that stuff they tought me at traning doesn't apply here! I mean come on! I tried writing complaints, but nobody listened to a teller over a manager. We even wrote with whole bunch of people about dissatisfaction of management team. Me and other dude were FORCED to quit (she forced us to walk out, because we didn't want to get fired).

But, now I cannot include that on my applications, simply because what is hiring person going to think about me working there for 4 months? I've tried any everywhere where I mentioned this job I didn't get a phone call back. Of course everything will be assumed my fault (because as we all know management is "never wrong"), that I messed up and was forced to quit. I can't even imagine what kind of things the ***** would say if they called her for reference.

I still think that previous work history should be STRICTLY private information. Sometimes bad things happen to good people and it shouldn't be held against them for future employment. I'm applying for a job, I want to list my experience to qualify for a certain job. If I don't want to list certain jobs, I must have a right not to. If I have stable work history with high perfomance ratings, then why would they make assumptions, because one or two jobs went sour?
There should be a new law.

[Ian]

He isnt talking about work history, he's pissed cause he got arrested and now he cant get a minimum-paying job.

Thats what companies do. You brush with the law, they dont want you.

[camaro3.4]

Alot of businesses will give you any BS excuse they want not to hire you. But hey, its america, the heck with em and go find a $10 an hour job. Could be cause of your car, your name, the secretary didnt like you.

[Mogobs30th]

Originally posted by camaro3.4:
Alot of businesses will give you any BS excuse they want not to hire you. But hey, its america, the heck with em and go find a $10 an hour job. Could be cause of your car, your name, the secretary didnt like you.

FIND a $10 an hour job, there isn't many out there. The reason why they can get away with this crap is because the job market is flooded with people needing a job, especially for the menial jobs.

[imported_admin]

Originally posted by Ian:
he's pissed cause he got arrested and now he cant get a minimum-paying job.

Um, Ian, please re-read his post:

Originally posted by BirdOfPrey01:
I got a ticket for disorderly conduct when I was 17, and I got fired from Subway and Quit walmart to return to school and this isnt good enough for a 7.00$ Job at the Home Owner's Bargain Outlet.

So a TICKET for disorderly contact--among the LOWEST of all criminal offenses--should disqualify him from getting any job for the rest of his life? Um, yeah...........

Regarding background check companies--I completely agree. When I joined First Investors as a financial advisor I had to go through an FBI background investigation for my NASD securities license. That was fine--fair game... they don't want people with a history of stealing to get a license managing people's life savings. I passed. But then twelve months later as I sign on with Freddie Mac, who has a contract with www.americanbackground.com , for some reason my background came up as YELLOW (between RED, YELLOW, and GREEN). I wasn't supposed to see it but my manager pulled the data up right in front of me and I happened to oversee it... he said something along the lines of "oh" and then asked me to return to my cubicle. I kept the job but to this day I don't know why the **** my background came up as "yellow" (which implied manager's discretion).

Who the **** is "American Background" to decide whether or not my background is suitable to work in finance? If my background had come back as "red" they would have fired me on the spot... even though I have NEVER committed any financial crime and never done anything to betray any legal trust that had been imbued in me.

Why was it yellow? Hell if I know. Bad driving record? Questionable credit? ONE TICKET IN COLLEGE for drunk in public where I spent the night in jail in the drunk tank and then didn't even have to go to court--I just paid the $35 fine? WTF does any of that crap have to do with my trustworthiness and my ability to use Microsoft Excel to process financial data?

Background companies--and credit bureaus, for that matter--keep all sorts of information about you that you're not even allowed to see. Its total bull****. If they have records on me and they think they know the "truth" I have a ****ing RIGHT to see what info they have and verify that its at least correct! But "background" companies don't classify under the Fair Credit Reporting Act and at the moment are legally allowed to keep tabs on me without telling me what info they have. That WILL change (vote for it!). Credit bureaus used to have that power too, but consumers got pissed and fought back. The Fair Credit Reporting Act was passed for this reason. So support the Fair Background Reporting Act when it comes up.