Presidential Debate Opinions

[camarov62003]

Originally posted by jc Kyle:
i'm impartial to both presidents.. i mean, i don't really know the issues.. but man, Bush sounds uneducated

so i guess everyone who thinks beofre they speak is a complete moron....... :rolleyes:

[camarov62003]

Originally posted by Skapimp:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by camarov62003:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jc Kyle:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6123733/?GT1=5402

i thought kerry did have a better debate, made better points. Bush seemed to over generalize what kerry was saying.. saying that Kerry switches sides on things.. while Kerry had to clarify what he meant. Bush kept repeating the same thing and sounded rather foolish.

Also, when Kerry spoke, Bush made faces, snickered, and rolled his eyes. When Bush spoke, Kerry looked at him intently, took notes, nodded when the President made points. I dunno, based off that, Bush seemed like a whiny baby while Kerry was standing up to what Bush had to say

kerry never actually said anything. he kept saying he has a plan but never said what the plan was. he also says he will expand the service but he wont tell how he is going to do that.....maybe the draft...hmmmmmmm. and all he said was what Bush didnt do never what he was going to do. </font>[/QUOTE]Kerry went over his 4 point plan, but couldn't go into detail. It's hard to tell your WHOLE plan in 90 seconds.

Research candidates before you vote, it helps. </font>[/QUOTE]then please tell em what is kerrys 4 point plan?? everythign i heard is what bush has in place already. no originality in kerry

[Skapimp]

http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

[GrigoryRasputin]

Originally posted by Infernal:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Stefan:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Infernal:
He does flip-flop. He accuses the president of lying to the American people, yet he uses the same "excuse" Bush uses for his vote for military action -- the information they were given was bad.

You misunderstood him.

He said he was for the use of force. But he was for doing it WITH OUR ALLIES and the support of the U.N. He was never for America launching an invasion of Iraq alone. His words were something along the lines of "there is the right way to do something and the wrong way. I was for the right way."

Just because he voted in favor of use of force does not mean he supported Bush's technique. That's a gross oversimplification.

I was for the war initially... but quickly changed my mind when I saw how Bush was botching it up. Do I flip-flop now? </font>[/QUOTE]There were no stipulations in the vote to grant authority to the executive office to invade Iraq. </font>[/QUOTE]Actually there were - I suggest you read the legislation instead of just trusting what the RNC babbles about.

[jc Kyle]

good call stefan.. thought you were republican though? or just defending the truth

[maxcamaro]

kerry: I have had one consistant position on Iraq....blah blah

liar and he knows it

[BLLDOGG]

Originally posted by Skapimp:
http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

you cant say Kerry's Plan is what is written there. I'm sure his Website People are having a time of there lives trying to keep up on his flip-flopping plans.

[memphis_raines]

Any plan Kerry has now, or will switch to next week, is better than Bush's. The way I see it, Bush's plan is this: screw the American people out of as much money as he can, while he can. F*ck Iraq (and everybody else for that matter), we need to worry about our own damn problems. While everyone's watching Iraq, Bush is putting a royal f*cking to us right here at home. Our government is selling out our jobs left and right and giving OUR money to foreign countries when we have AMERICANS living under interstate overpasses starving to death. Can anyone tell me exactly WHY we sent billions to Iraq after we attacked them?? If you have a problem with someone, you kick their a$$, not lick their butthole. Everyone talks about Bush being such a bada$$ when it comes to this "war", but that's a load of horsesh*t. It's just my opinion, but I say f*ck Bush and the d*ck he rode in on.

I'm not saying Kerry would be any better. But I would rather take a chance on a possible f*cking with Kerry than a definite one if Bush is reelected.

[GrigoryRasputin]

Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skapimp:
http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

you cant say Kerry's Plan is what is written there. I'm sure his Website People are having a time of there lives trying to keep up on his flip-flopping plans. </font>[/QUOTE]Yes, I believe you can say that is Kerry's plan - the title is "Our Plan For America"

That obviously indicates to me that it IS indeed, his plan.

[L32Projekt]

Oh yeah, and Kerry's statement on "Don't confuse the War with the Warriors" was pure BS. What did he do after coming back from Vietnam? He slandered EVERY warrior over there by saying they were all committing war crimes. He confused his personal war against the war with the warriors. Arsehole...

I really dislike Kerry. I've never said that President Bush hasn't made mistakes, but I truly believe that Kerry won't help matters any.

[GrigoryRasputin]

Actually he said some of the soldiers committed war crimes.

[98goldbird]

If Kerry was President instead of Bush 4 years back, the roles would be flip-flopped and Kerry would be Bush in that debate and vice versa. What I mean is...

Kerry was quoted to going to war with Iraq. Kerry was quoted that we need to send in as many troops possible
Kerry was quoted that it doesn't matter how much money we spend

Then Kerry was quoted that it was a mistake after the fact (the war).

However, we would still have been in the same situation is Kerry was our President at the time. Probably worse with his "I'M A VIATNAM 4 PURPLE STAR STICK UP MY @$$ VET AND JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED!"

If you're not going to vote for Bush, vote for Nader. Cuz the ideal that, "oh, I'm going to vote for the lesser of the 2 evils is BULL$HIT!" Since when is this election a bipartisan election in which youre ONLY choices are Bush or Kerry. Give me a break :rolleyes:

[GrigoryRasputin]

You obviously did not give Kerry the time of day during the debate if you still dont understand what he meant about the Iraq war. He explained it very clearly.

[Skapimp]

Originally posted by BLLDOGG:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Skapimp:
http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

you cant say Kerry's Plan is what is written there. I'm sure his Website People are having a time of there lives trying to keep up on his flip-flopping plans. </font>[/QUOTE]http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/our_plan_for_america.pdf

How about 253 pages? I could've posted that before, I but I know you wouldn't have read more than 1 page of it.

[Infernal]

Actually there were - I suggest you read the legislation instead of just trusting what the RNC babbles about.

I've read the resolution. Have you?