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  • #31
    Re: 2012

    I'm definitely cashing-in my 401k :banana:
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    • #32
      Re: 2012

      Originally posted by V6Bob
      Flat wrong. A thing is happening about global warming. Some people are saying things that are unscientific and/or distorted, and get published in the media. In the scientific community, the debate is over. 99+% of scientists agree. The planet is warming, we are a major contributor. The arguments now are over how bad it will get and how fast.

      The National Academy of Science is a pretty definitive source for this kind of "controversy". Very conservative about coming to conclusions were the science is at all in doubt.

      Here's a good article about what I just said by a history of science scholar who studied this deal. Relevant quote:

      "Not a single paper in a large sample of peer-reviewed scientific journals between 1993 and 2003 refuted the consensus position, summarized by the National Academy of Sciences, that "most of the observed warming of the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations."

      http://www.twincities.com/mld/twinci...l/15166461.htm

      Here's the full NAS report online. As I said, it's a very conservative take, but it's definite that global warming is real and that a major cause is us. They specifically address the "Little Ice Age" argument.

      http://www.nap.edu/catalog/11676.html

      But it won't happen until after 2012. :-)
      I have seen and read probably the same stuff as you and I never believe What i see in the media. What I believe is not some uneducated half *** guess on the world. I will read that report though.
      2000 3.8 A4 Pewter Camaro

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      • #33
        Re: 2012

        Originally posted by BLLDOGG
        I have seen and read probably the same stuff as you and I never believe What i see in the media. What I believe is not some uneducated half *** guess on the world. I will read that report though.
        Here's perhaps a shorter convincer than a 190 page report in technical jargon:

        "After becoming chief executive of PG&E last year, Peter Darbee met with a large number of leading climate scientists, he said, to make up his own mind about global warming.

        As a result of his wide inquiries, PG&E, the parent of the Pacific Gas and Electric Company, which serves Northern California and is one of the nation’s largest energy utilities, broke away from the industry pack to support sweeping efforts to reduce the greenhouse-gas emissions that are widely blamed for global warming.

        “The evidence in the scientific community is lopsided — it’s not even close,” Mr. Darbee said. “Climate change is a problem.”
        2000 Firebird convert, chameleon/tan, M5, Y87, TCS, BMR tower brace and panhard, KBDD sfcs, 245/50-16 GSCs

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        • #34
          Re: 2012

          only ~ 4 years to drive my new 09 model camaro :-(

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