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Re: New Cars, better engines!??
12secondv6:
Somehow I knew you would chime in when I pointed out the problems with MB. The fact remains that JP Powers asks the same questions for every brand, it's a survey made for the sake of comparison, so how does that account for the large difference in ratings between MB and some of the top brands on the list? They're all held to the SAME STANDARDS. I'm not saying the survey is flawless by any means (no survey or form of statistical gathering is: see my other post) but it shouldn't just be written off. Maybe MB owners are more picky than others, but I doubt it. So yeah, you have people claiming that brake dust is a problem, but that just inflates the overall number of problems for ALL of the cars. That doesn't change the fact that the survey is COMPARATIVE. Are people going to complain about brake dust (or tires,etc) on a MB more than on a GMC or a Toyota??
Just because JD powers used to send you their survey and stopped doesn't mean anything, I don't think my parents have ever received one, and they've owned MANY cars. That's good statistical sampling: they can't take their samples from the same people every time or even more than once when so many people are available.
I know some people who used to lease an S500 that was driven pretty easily and had MANY expensive electronic problems related to the engine and transmission.
Sorry, just because it has that little star on it and costs $80k doesn't necessarily mean it's more reliable than other cars. It means the ride is a little smoother, the engine is more powerful, the leather is nicer, it has more bells and whistles, etc. If I was buying for the sake of reliability, I would take a Toyota over a Mercedes any day. It's less likely to break, and costs less to fix. People don't buy Mercedes because they're looking for reliability: they buy them for the prestige and for the way the cars drive.
12secondv6:
Somehow I knew you would chime in when I pointed out the problems with MB. The fact remains that JP Powers asks the same questions for every brand, it's a survey made for the sake of comparison, so how does that account for the large difference in ratings between MB and some of the top brands on the list? They're all held to the SAME STANDARDS. I'm not saying the survey is flawless by any means (no survey or form of statistical gathering is: see my other post) but it shouldn't just be written off. Maybe MB owners are more picky than others, but I doubt it. So yeah, you have people claiming that brake dust is a problem, but that just inflates the overall number of problems for ALL of the cars. That doesn't change the fact that the survey is COMPARATIVE. Are people going to complain about brake dust (or tires,etc) on a MB more than on a GMC or a Toyota??
Just because JD powers used to send you their survey and stopped doesn't mean anything, I don't think my parents have ever received one, and they've owned MANY cars. That's good statistical sampling: they can't take their samples from the same people every time or even more than once when so many people are available.
I know some people who used to lease an S500 that was driven pretty easily and had MANY expensive electronic problems related to the engine and transmission.
Sorry, just because it has that little star on it and costs $80k doesn't necessarily mean it's more reliable than other cars. It means the ride is a little smoother, the engine is more powerful, the leather is nicer, it has more bells and whistles, etc. If I was buying for the sake of reliability, I would take a Toyota over a Mercedes any day. It's less likely to break, and costs less to fix. People don't buy Mercedes because they're looking for reliability: they buy them for the prestige and for the way the cars drive.
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