Camaro Performers Magazine

[flyfrito_SS]

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They finally do some writing in that magazine about a v6, and this is how we show our gratitude. :wavey:

Its nice to see that some of us are trying to turn this into a positive thing.

Id LOVE to see another v6 project in the future.

I hope so as well.

[UDLOSE98]

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theres tons of us with ongoing projects, but you dont read about us in a magazine and our parts are out of pocket....not sponsored.

people want to read about this project when there are a lot of stories happening right here with better parts and faster times.

[Shirl]

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You guys are great. :) Seriously though, get some submissions in to that magazine and start promoting your own cars! They are not going to come to you. We need to remind them that there are some awesome looking and performing 6's out there that should get some recognition. Keep it positive. ;)

[96RS Alex]

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Limited budgets will alway dictate the success of a project. I think the mag should give the car away in a special contest to us readers for further tweaking or compete in a show such as 'Pinks' lol.

[Savorybacon]

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I agree with UDLOSE I'm much more impressed and interested in cars on our board, to heck with the mag.

[youngsc]

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So why don't we have each person post a mag type article about their cars and lock it and make it a sticky. That way anyone on here or new will have a permanent reference of pics and specs for cars. After all that is the point of a car magazine to give people reference material to learn from and base their build on.

[Hib Halverson]

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a magazine should never post times that were done with a gtech on a dirty highway. I am sorry but you shouldn't have even submitted times then if that has to be the case (or it should have been put in print how the times were made).

I don't know where this G-tech crap comes from. If you would read the magazine articles, you'd read that what was used was a vehicle dynamics testing system made by Vericom Computers. That we used a Vericom was published several times so this idea that the magazine's use of it was not disclosed is also a lot of B.S.

The Vericom used in the FV6 series was model # VC3000DAQ. That piece of equipment is quite accurate...much more so that a G-tech, which is more of a toy than an accurate timing device. Among other applications, the Vericom is used by law enforcement in accident reconstruction. Because data of that type often has to stand up in court, the device is higly accurate. It's also used in various motorsports, by the trucking industry, by vehicle manufacturers, by and it's even approved by the FAA for use as a decelerometer for generating runway friction reports during winter conditions which are used by pilots all over the world. If you want to set some of these silly biases you have aside and learn more about it, point your browser at www.vericomecomputers.com

Lastly, if you think that all magazine acceleration testing is done at the track with drag strip clocks, you're sadly misinformed. While some magazine stories are done with drag strip timing, some smaller magazines regularly use Vericoms and even lesser devices, such as G-Techs. In fact, the mainstream road test magazines seldom generate quarter mile times using drag strip clocks. They use their own, on-board timing equipment. These suites of electronics are even more accurate than a Vericom...though the degree if additional accuracy is very small. Of course these systems cost a lot, too...upwards of $10,000.00

Do they have a website or anything along with pricing?

www.dawsonracingheaders.com

The KR you are seeing is possibly just some false KR, some guys swap out their knock sensor for a less sensitive one. The lean problem can be fixed within minutes with HP tuners on a laptop, no biggy there except you went to a tuner guy instead of having your own hp tuners software, so you would have to pay him to change it again.

We've went though a lot of false knock retard with the first camshaft we ran. The second camshaft profile pretty much ended that. This time, I think the KR is because the AFR is lean at WOT. Simply firing-up HP Tuners and adding more fuel ain't going to fix the problem we have, it'll just mask it and that's not the right way to proceed. The cal previously was right. All that changed was several months of street operation and then the AFR goes lean. My guess is there's a leak somewhere and if there is, we're not gonna be able to calibrate our way out of that. I've got the intake off and when I reinstall it with all new gaskets and seals, hopefully I find the vac. leak.

Now, I am interested in these "less sensitive" knock sensors. What is the GM part number of a KS which has been proven to be less sensitive than the units used in 01 and 02 3800 Series II engines?

Last, the manual in these cars doesn't like power at all and blows rather quickly when the mods start coming.

The idea that the T5 won't live at the 250 or so horsepower level we're at now is bunk. Those transmissions were road raced for years back in the 80s and 90s in Camaros with V8s and 300 or more horsepower. I think we're having trouble becaused I abused the gearbox in testing. That said, there are manuals which are more reliable and offer more performance. That's why we're going to try and convert to a six-speed.

If all I was going to do is drag race, I'd go the automatic route, but that's not the goal for this car.

[Shodown]

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That's why we're going to try and convert to a six-speed.

Please be detailed on how you do this. You will the attention of many people. A write up of some kind will be very beneficial :)

[SilverRS96]

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u abuse the gear box...welcome to my world...im lookin for my third t-5...junk

[Hib Halverson]

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Please be detailed on how you do this. You will the attention of many people. A write up of some kind will be very beneficial :)

That part of the series will come last. Actually, it will be the final part of the Internet version of the series which is slated to begin on The Camaro Homepage (www.camarohomepage.com) using a lot of new content sometime next month. It is possible that the transmission conversion will not appear in the magazine and only be posted on the Web but I'm not sure about that right now.

I've done some early planning and so far, it's my understanding that McLeod Industries makes a clutch housing and an adapter plate which one uses to mate a T56 to the 3800 Ser. II block. The T56 we'll probably use is the stock Z28 unit. There also is a unique "extended pilot bearing" which is used and I believe a special shifter. There is a driveshaft change involved, though it may end up being that we just change the front yoke on our existing Inland Empire Driveline aluminum shaft. Lastly, an axle ratio change is necessary and it will either be a 4.10 or 3.73.

That's all I know about it right now.

[SilverRS96]

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y would u change the yoke? the v6 and lt/ls1's yoke on the ds r the same arnt they? i have a lt1 ds out of a t-56 and so do a bunch of other guys

[Mighty Thor]

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That's all I know about it right now.

Hey Hib, I'm from the Inland Empire myself. A little off topic, but where did you get the wires for you Racetronix fuel pump?

It said in the Mag. that you have a Walbro 255 and 10 ga. wires. Is this a package?

Another question, did you guys ditch the bucket from the fuel components?

Thanks

[Hib Halverson]

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y would u change the yoke? the v6 and lt/ls1's yoke on the ds r the same arnt they? i have a lt1 ds out of a t-56 and so do a bunch of other guys

I should correct myself.
My *assumption* is that to go from a T5 to a T56 one needs to change the yoke. That assumption was based on a prior assumption that the T56's output shaft diameter is larger.

[Hib Halverson]

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Hey Hib, I'm from the Inland Empire myself. A little off topic, but where did you get the wires for you Racetronix fuel pump?

It said in the Mag. that you have a Walbro 255 and 10 ga. wires. Is this a package?

Another question, did you guys ditch the bucket from the fuel components?

Thanks

The Racetronix set-up we used was a kit, the core of which is that Walbro. It came with a full wiring harness that was preassembled. That was one of the reasons we picked that product. It's very well excecuted and documented.

We installed the Racetronix into the O.E. "bucket assy". Actually, other than getting the freakin' gas tank out and the retaining ring off, the job was pretty easy, though maybe a bit time consuming. Once we'd put the Racetronix in the stock bucket, we just reassembled everything per the FSM.

[UDLOSE98]

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Hey Hib, I'm from the Inland Empire myself. A little off topic, but where did you get the wires for you Racetronix fuel pump?

It said in the Mag. that you have a Walbro 255 and 10 ga. wires. Is this a package?

Another question, did you guys ditch the bucket from the fuel components?

Thanks

i got mine from thunder racing under the Lt1 setup....i wouldnt get the pump tht came with that kit as it was not a direct match for my car.