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    I have a very simple theory about hydroplaning: that (1) way too many drivers go too fast in very wet conditions (2) that once they start hydroplaning they don't know what to do (i.e don't hit the brakes or steer the wheel) and (3) they don't blame themselves, they just chalk it up to chance and conditions that they wrecked their car. My theory is that hydroplaning is due to irresponsible, ignorant, or inattentive driving, and that if people showed some responsibility and maturity by SLOWING DOWN, it wouldn't happen as much.

    I've never hydroplaned, ever. To tell the truth the only time I ever lost control of a car for a second was in heavy snow (and I quickly regained it.)

    Basically, the rule of thumb I've heard from various places is that in wet conditions (say 1-2 or more inches of rain) any speed 60 mph or above can cause the car to hydroplane (of course factoring in tires, weight of car, handling characteristics, etc.) Someone please correct me if you have more or conflicting information. That means a normal driving speed of say 70 mph might be unsafe in wet conditions, again depending on amount of water on the road, tires and vehicle.

    That means that driving on city streets at city speeds (i.e. 45 mph and below) any car with a decent set of tires should be safe (ESPECIALLY HEAVY *** F-BODIES) So why do I hear about people hydroplaning? I see it on here occasionally: "I totalled my car: I hydroplaned and ran into a tree." My question to you is, how fast were you going? How were you driving? Maybe you should slow down? I've been driving my Camaro for almost 5 years and I've driven it in almost every imaginable condition, and I've never managed to come CLOSE to losing control to that degree. Granted, if you use too much gas they're very easy to lose control of, but anyone who is used to driving them should know that. Sure, you want to drive on the highway sometimes because it's quicker, and it's scary going 45 with dumbasses in pickups blowing by you at 75, but why risk it if the rain is that heavy?

    BTW, for the record I feel bad for anyone who has totalled or wrecked their car when in normal conditions they wouldn't have, but I think if people would know to slow down and know what to do to regain control it might save some people from a lot of pain.

    Anyone disagree? I'm posting this to get other informed input, and possibly to correct any misinformation I may have, but I think my basic theory is sound: slowing down would cause much less hydroplaning (and wrecks in general I suppose.)
    Last edited by Camarorulz; 01-02-2007, 09:44 PM.
    -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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    Re: Theory about hydroplaning

    You can hydroplane at any speed. Especially in an f-body.

    Some people just don't realize how easy it is to lose control...

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    • #3
      Re: Theory about hydroplaning

      So I can hydroplane at 30 mph? I find that a little difficult to believe unless my tires are totally smooth (and having bad tires is as irresponsible as driving too fast.) Also, weight tends to negate hydroplaning effects, so how are f-bodies, being the heavy beasts that they are, especially prone to it?
      -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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      • #4
        Re: Theory about hydroplaning

        I'm not too sure how it happened, but I've hydroplaned a couple of times. One time, I stopped at a light. Took a right turn when the light turned green (i took it at like 15mph cuz it was raining), and I ended up sliding over into the next lane. Luckily I was the only one on the road then, but still....I need new tires, so i blame it on that
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        • #5
          Re: Theory about hydroplaning

          I hydroplaned in my Thunderbird - an even bigger beast than the Camaro - going only about 35mph. Luckily the car quickly regained traction while I was still going straight.

          I'd say most cases of hydroplaning are because of wreckless driving, but not all.

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          • #6
            Re: Theory about hydroplaning

            meh, i kind of agree with camarorulz speed is the #1 factor of hydroplaining. i hydroplaned in a jeep cherokee when i was about 17. I was merging onto I95 i was accelerating to merge into right lane and i went under an overpass and i felt a tug on the wheel. I went across the middle lane sideways and ended up doing a 270 degree spin and ending in the left lane. Lucklily i didnt hit anyone and i dont know why to this day.. It is by far the stupidest and dangerous accident i have been involved in. I def could have been going slower and I even had over sized tires but i honestly think that makes it worse. The more those wear, the more dangerous it is. Think of it like Skis in the rain, it seems like it makes you float on the water due to lack of weight distribution on the tires. It taught me to slow down in wet conditions and i never hydroplaned since.

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            • #7
              Re: Theory about hydroplaning

              I've hydroplaned in my camaro befor. 4 complete 360's befor ending up in the grass. I was going 40.
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              • #8
                Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                Hydroplaining sucks. I've done it numerous times in all 3 of my f-bodies. Mostly due to rain, wide bald tires, and speed? Never have spun the car though, or lost control and hit something.
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                • #9
                  Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                  it takes something like 2-3 inches of water to FLOAT a normal car. yes, this is a fact.

                  its all science. the more water is displaced (bigger tires) the more the car will float. i have hydroplaned many times, not going above the speed limit. i have never felt like i was going to die, just because i stay calm and know how to react, but yes, i have felt that my tires were not on the road.
                  yes, if you drive slower there is a lower chance of hydroplaning, but it happens no matter what.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                    You are correct.
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                    • #11
                      Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                      My car hydroplanes like a b!tch.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                        ^^ maybe you need new tires?

                        I've gone progressively wider with my tire setup, and so far I'm up to 255s. No issues yet, we'll see. I think the wider tire definitely hurts in low-traction conditions though.
                        -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                          Four things contributed to hydroplaning equally (aka, speed is not the biggest factor):

                          1. The amount of standing water on the road
                          2. Speed, of course
                          3. Tread depth
                          4. ability of the tire to move water

                          a deficienty in any of these areas contribute to hydroplaning. If your tires are going through water faster than the water can be distributed away, you are at risk of hydroplaning.

                          If you have felt a tug at the wheel, you most likely just went through a big puddle.

                          Two ways of avoiding hydroplaning:
                          1. slow down, of course
                          2. Follow in the tire tracks of the guy in front of you.

                          18 years of driving and I have never hydroplaned (to my knowledge).


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                          • #14
                            Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                            I think hydroplaning can happen at almost any speed, under certain conditions. I've never lost control either, exept when i've wanted to. Driving slower helps i'm sure; but maybe we've just been lucky. We would all like to say "I know how to keep control of my car", but maybe another variable happens and oooops! Like a deep puddle you can't see, or even black ice. It doesn't always have to be negligent driving, or irresponsibility of vehicle upkeep. Just be careful out there; the next time you hop in the car, hopefully it won't be your last.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Theory about hydroplaning

                              SpeedingFirebird: So when I punch the gas and the tires lose grip I'm technically hydroplaning? That seems to fit your definition, which is when the tires can't move the water fast enough.

                              My point was that something usually has to cause it: i.e if you're driving in a straight line not giving it a lot of gas, then you're probably going too fast if you feel it start to hydroplane. If you're turning a corner and you start to hydroplane, you're probably giving it too much gas.

                              Loss of traction isn't just due to speed, true: sometimes it's due to the extremity of the maneuver: you don't have to be going very fast to lose traction if you give it a lot of gas.

                              The same principle can be applied to drag racing: the faster you punch the throttle, the higher the chances you will lose traction.

                              If you steer too quickly, or brake too quickly couldn't the tires temporarily lose ability to distribute water out from under themselves?

                              Maybe hydroplaning issues results from maneuvers that are too radical for the conditions rather than actual speed?

                              I'd like to test this out on a big wet piece of pavement with no obstacles in sight. :)
                              -Eric<br />2002 Navy Blue Camaro...Striped and Stalled. 35th Anniversary SS wheels <br />Best ET: 15.384 @ 88.32 on street tires<br />Project Whitney: Goal, 14.0 1/4 by summer 2008.

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