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  • #16
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    Da colts vs. da bears
    =
    da Bears.

    Sorry mogobster
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    • #17
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      Originally posted by SilverRS96
      haha dont worry hes got a hot *** gf to fix that for him...btw how r the bucs playin as a team...r they shootin under or over par? i mean they must have been playin golf since half way threw the season...and r we lookin at another rebuild yr for next yr on those bucs?

      PS...o ya colt fans if ur sooooo good lets c u in 4 yrs...i would love to c if u could do what the pats have in the playoffs cuz u know u cant!!
      Lets see the Pats in 4 years.....I highly doubt that they will be anywhere NEAR the team they are now. As Bibby said, it is the beginning of the end for the Pats, its time to wise up and make way for the Colts. Your dynasty was cut short, and you Pats fans are looking for straws to grasp as a Superbowl goes by without you a**holes in it......cheaters.

      AS I have said before, I am not disillusioned by the way the Bucs play, I know they haven't had a good few seasons, many factors in that. But the plain and simple truth is the Pats luck has now run out. Their gameplan is old and is as transparent as a 40 year old pair of boxer shorts. You got lucky against San Diego, but not so lucky agains the Colts. We will see how the Pats do next year, I bet money now it won't be as good as this year.

      BTW, the Pats are cheaters anyway, if I am wrong maybe the name "Willie McGinnist at the dome with a fake sore hamstring" might ring a bell.

      Agreed. Bilichick turns 55 this year, and as we all know thats the year that coaches officially become old... and well crappy. I'll give the Pats 3 years before Bilichick either retires or gets canned. Speaking of which Parcells finally gave up the ghost... and about 4 or 5 years after when he should of.
      Is this soccer boy trying to talk about football??? LOL. I ended my convo with soccer, I suggest you end yours about football, cause you make no damn sense. Some of the best coaches ever were well over the age of 55. And if you think Bill Parcells retiring has come too late, you really have no clue what you are talking about. Parcells could easily coach for another 10 years. Only reason why he would retire is because of the hours put in by a coach in the modern era of football.

      I don't have "Official Football Guru" in my title for nothing.;)
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      • #18
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        ^^^ so says teh sucaneeers fan phssssh
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        • #19
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          not im not sayin that the pats r gonna dominate the next 4 yrs...im sayin lets c the colts do what the pats have...i doubt they will win 3 SB's in 4 yrs like they have...and for 1 play u label us cheaters??? come on now if u want cheaters y not throw the chargers into that statement with Shawn "Needles" Merriman...either way they colts could have still scored but didnt...like the whole Bill buckner think in the WS..the soxs still had next game to beat them and they didnt...just forget about what he did and just move on


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          • #20
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            There is a difference between a player taking steroid OFF the field and a player cheating to get an advantage ON the field.

            That and you cant compare baseball to football, there are no second chances in football like there is in baseball playoffs.

            Da colts vs. da bears
            =
            da Bears.

            Sorry mogobster
            Sorry for what? I know you are wrong...but I can overlook it.
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            • #21
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              whatever...they still could have scored...but they didnt end of story...either way the pats lost and i never denied that they didnt blow it as it states in my sig...


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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                Is this soccer boy trying to talk about football??? LOL. I ended my convo with soccer, I suggest you end yours about football, cause you make no damn sense.
                First off, don't insult me with your ignorance. Just because i happen to know a goal post from my ******* doesn't mean that i'm completely oblivious to other sports. As it happens football (american) is my favorite sport (not counting autoracing), not soccer, so i don't appreciate that rather crude assumption.

                Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                Some of the best coaches ever were well over the age of 55.
                Yes some of the best coaches ever were over 55, but how many of todays best coaches are over 55? I'll answer that one: Marty Schottenheimer, and his team just lost a divisional playoff game due (mostly) to his ineptitude when it comes to coaching in the playoffs. If you were to list the best coaches in the NFL this year you'd have: Tony Dungy, Sean Payton, Bill Belichick, Eric Mangini, Jeff Fisher, Lovie Smith, Andy Reid and Brian Billick. Or something like that. None of them are over 55, and only Belichick, Billick, and Dungy are over 50, and theres a reason for that...

                Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                And if you think Bill Parcells retiring has come too late, you really have no clue what you are talking about. Parcells could easily coach for another 10 years. Only reason why he would retire is because of the hours put in by a coach in the modern era of football.
                So Parcells could coach for another ten years (by which time he'd be 75.. or dead)... yet he retired because he couldn't keep up with the amazing amounts of hours that NFL coaches have to put in these days. So in otherwords he could coach his little heart out still if he weren't so damn old... hmm.. funny that you agree with me in your argument. You see i never said that Parcells was incompetant, its just when people get old they tend to loose stamina, and focus. And like you said, these days coaches have to put rediculous amounts of hours into their jobs, and simply put: thats hard for older people (hence why most people retire between around 60, unless you're a teacher). Ever since Parcells took over the reigns at Dallas you could see that he was starting to slip, just ever so slightly. Now these older coaches (Parcells, Gibbs, Coughlin, Green, Shell) they can still coach.. but they're just not as good as they used to be.. infact in most of their cases not even close. They get sloppy, and let things get by them that wouldn't have in the future (for example letting Tony Romo be a full time QB and a place holder). They don't have that same fire within them, which is perfectly normal concidering their age.

                A statistic for you: Out of 40 Superbowls played (actually 41 cuz neither Dungy or Lovie are over 55) only 5 of them were won by an old coach:
                Richard Vermeil, St. Louis - XXXIV (63 yrs, 92 days)
                Weeb Ewbank, New York Jets - III (61 yrs, 251 days)
                Barry Switzer, Dallas - XXX (58 yrs, 115 days)
                Bill Walsh, San Francisco - XXIII (57 yrs, 53 days)
                George Seifert, San Francisco - XXIX (55 yrs, 7 days)

                Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                I don't have "Official Football Guru" in my title for nothing.;)
                You know.. just one day. One day, i'd like to read a post by you and have it not be filled with A)Endless whining or B)Extreme arrogance ;)


                Originally posted by SSMOWS6
                i mean, you can always fly wes out there and since he's a tool sometimes, fashion him into a plow for the maro
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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                  There is a difference between a player taking steroid OFF the field and a player cheating to get an advantage ON the field.

                  That and you cant compare baseball to football, there are no second chances in football like there is in baseball playoffs.



                  Sorry for what? I know you are wrong...but I can overlook it.
                  I just got a feeling ;)
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                  • #24
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                    You going to blame that Tony Romo incident on Parcells?? Amazing. If you think that no one else would have made that mistake then you are blind to the fact. ANYONE could have made that mistake, any holder, anywhere. Only reason why it got so much media coverage is because its a new QB that made a dopey mistake, but anyone could have made it, and it certainly isn't Parcells fault. And you say that Parcells was slipping?? He turned that team around, managed to subdue a loud mouthed Terrell Owens, got the team on a winning track, and has put FOCUS back in the minds of the players where they will once again be playoff contenders. And Parcells lost focus? Where do you get this from?

                    As for ages...well lets see. Billick will be 53 next month, Jaroun will be 57 this year, Crennel will be 60 this June, Shanahan will be 55 this year, Dungy will be 52, Herm Edwards will be 53, Belichick will be 55, Shell will be 61, Shottenheimer will be 64, Fox will be 52, Marinelli will be 58, Childress will be 51, Coughlin will be 60, Holmgren will be 59, and Joe Gibbs, who came BACK from NASCAR to coach in the NFL, will be 67 this year. Thats 15 coaches, almost HALF of the NFL to date, that are over the age of 50. So you're telling me that you can be 50 and still coach but be 55 and now you're too old, better tell Gibbs that. So before you go off on some BS crap, know what the hell you are talking about. There are quite a few over the age of 50, and that is info that is easily found. Need help....www.NFL.com. And the reason why I insult you, is because you said a bunch of stuff, were WRONG, and now I make you look ignorant, thats what I do, have done that a LONG time on this board, probably before you were even able to drive.

                    You know.. just one day. One day, i'd like to read a post by you and have it not be filled with A)Endless whining or B)Extreme arrogance
                    You know, just one day, ONE DAY, Id like to have Jessica Simpson toungue my junk, but, with reality, comes the hard facts of life. Arrogance is what I do, because, well, I earned it. I prove people wrong, I am allowed to be arrogant. As for my whining, well, I didn't want to get into your personal life, but Im sure being a bellboy is a great career path, keep up the good work.:tup:






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                    • #25
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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                        You going to blame that Tony Romo incident on Parcells?? Amazing. If you think that no one else would have made that mistake then you are blind to the fact. ANYONE could have made that mistake, any holder, anywhere. Only reason why it got so much media coverage is because its a new QB that made a dopey mistake, but anyone could have made it, and it certainly isn't Parcells fault. And you say that Parcells was slipping?? He turned that team around, managed to subdue a loud mouthed Terrell Owens, got the team on a winning track, and has put FOCUS back in the minds of the players where they will once again be playoff contenders. And Parcells lost focus? Where do you get this from?
                        You know what? Yes i am blaming that Tony Romo incident on Parcells. Granted he wasn't the place holder, and granted that incidents like that can happen, but they only ever happen to teams that are ill-prepared, and or sloppy, and generally poorly coached (ala Detroit or Oakland). When was the last time you saw the Patriots muffing a field goal snap when it mattered? Or the Colts... or any of the other teams that are any good right now. You don't, and thats because they're well coached, and efficient.
                        When you were watching the game can you honestly say that you were even suprized that it ended the way it did? I know i wasn't. Or maybe more accurately i was suprized that i wasn't suprized. Every person i've talked to that watched that game agrees that you could feel, deep down inside yourself, that something was going to go wrong.. that something would happen. Why? Because thats how it was going with the Cowboys, thats how their season has been. They started bad, got better, and then fell apart again; Romo's fumble being a pantomime ending.
                        I will agree with you that Parcells turned the Cowboys around, they certainly are a lot better off than they were in 2002. But it serves to prove my point: 10 years ago their season wouldn't have ended up like this. 10 years ago Parcells would have been on top of them all season, they wouldn't have fallen apart at the end, and very likely would have beaten the pants off the Seahawks. I mean you could see it, just for a few weeks, in the middle of the season when they won several in a row and took down the undefeated Colts. You could see that it was good ol' Parcells back, but thats the difference 4 or 5 extra years can make, he couldn't keep it up. He's still a legend, for sure, its just a shame he has to go out on such a sad note. That, and possibly be remembered as the coach of the team that choked in such a memorable and amusing way (although hopefully not).

                        Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                        As for ages...well lets see. Billick will be 53 next month, Jaroun will be 57 this year, Crennel will be 60 this June, Shanahan will be 55 this year, Dungy will be 52, Herm Edwards will be 53, Belichick will be 55, Shell will be 61, Shottenheimer will be 64, Fox will be 52, Marinelli will be 58, Childress will be 51, Coughlin will be 60, Holmgren will be 59, and Joe Gibbs, who came BACK from NASCAR to coach in the NFL, will be 67 this year. Thats 15 coaches, almost HALF of the NFL to date, that are over the age of 50. So you're telling me that you can be 50 and still coach but be 55 and now you're too old, better tell Gibbs that.
                        I'm not saying that the minute you hit 55 you become a retard or anything, i'm saying that when you get older you start to lose it (i merely picked 55 as a convienient age between the older coaches who are still doing well and the older coaches behind loser teams, You can make it 54, 56, 57 or whathaveyou for all i care). I mean take a look at the coaches you mentioned:
                        Billick: Did an excellent job with the Ravens this season.. all the way up to the playoffs where they struck out. That final game could be a sign of the way things are going to go in the future...
                        Jauron: The Bills were 7-9, so the jury is still out on them.
                        Crennel: The Browns were crap before, and low and behold they're still crap.
                        Shanahan: Blew an amazing start to the season and couldn't even get the Broncos into the playoffs, a far cry from 10 years ago.
                        Dungy: He's been building those Colts up, and building them up, and finally they've gotten to the big one. Kudos for him.
                        Edwards: The Chiefs just squeaked in the playoffs and got beaten fair and square by Indianapolis, i sense mediocrity next season, but maybe thats just me.
                        Belichick: 3 years ago the Pats were owning games like the one last weekend.
                        Shell: The raiders were the worst team in the NFL and he got canned, nuff said.
                        Schottenheimer: Took the most talented team in the NFL to the leagues best record and presented prehaps the worst game plan in playoff history against the Pats... then again it IS Schottenheimer in the playoffs...
                        Fox: His Panthers are a far cry from that Superbowl team 3 years ago.
                        Marinelli: His Lions were 3-13, and generally aweful in that kind of way we've come to expect from Detroit these days.
                        Childress: Eh, the Vikings are in a "rebuilding" year i guess.
                        Coughlin: With all their talent, the Giants could still not be consistent enough to make a real playoff run (they pretty much got in by default, not due to amazing effort or skill).
                        Holmgren: Seattle have been kind of touch and go ever since Mike took over. One year they look real good, the next they stumble into the playoffs. Hardly what he had going in Green Bay.
                        Gibbs: Came back from the dead and didn't he do well this year?

                        For the record, the average record of those coaches over 55 is about 6-10, which includes Schottenheimer's Chargers (which is a statistical outlier). ... 6-10 hey thats not that bad... maybe i'm wrong then. I guess old coaches are the way to go :rolleyes:

                        Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                        There are quite a few over the age of 50, and that is info that is easily found. Need help....www.NFL.com. And the reason why I insult you, is because you said a bunch of stuff, were WRONG, and now I make you look ignorant, thats what I do, have done that a LONG time on this board, probably before you were even able to drive.
                        Hate to break it to you, but all you did was insult my knowledge of football, tell me how old 15 NFL coaches are, and argue that a head coach is not to blame for the shoddy preparedness and efficiency of his football team. And now you have made yourself look like an ***. Well done :tup:

                        Originally posted by Mogobs30th
                        As for my whining, well, I didn't want to get into your personal life, but Im sure being a bellboy is a great career path, keep up the good work.
                        Insulting my personal life, oooo classy.
                        Last edited by Fireball27; 01-23-2007, 04:32 PM.


                        Originally posted by SSMOWS6
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                        • #27
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                          I'm not saying that the minute you hit 55 you become a retard or anything, i'm saying that when you get older you start to lose it (i merely picked 55 as a convienient age between the older coaches who are still doing well and the older coaches behind loser teams, You can make it 54, 56, 57 or whathaveyou for all i care). I mean take a look at the coaches you mentioned:
                          Billick: Did an excellent job with the Ravens this season.. all the way up to the playoffs where they struck out. That final game could be a sign of the way things are going to go in the future...
                          Jauron: The Bills were 7-9, so the jury is still out on them.
                          Crennel: The Browns were crap before, and low and behold they're still crap.
                          Shanahan: Blew an amazing start to the season and couldn't even get the Broncos into the playoffs, a far cry from 10 years ago.
                          Dungy: He's been building those Colts up, and building them up, and finally they've gotten to the big one. Kudos for him.
                          Edwards: The Chiefs just squeaked in the playoffs and got beaten fair and square by Indianapolis, i sense mediocrity next season, but maybe thats just me.
                          Belichick: 3 years ago the Pats were owning games like the one last weekend.
                          Shell: The raiders were the worst team in the NFL and he got canned, nuff said.
                          Schottenheimer: Took the most talented team in the NFL to the leagues best record and presented prehaps the worst game plan in playoff history against the Pats... then again it IS Schottenheimer in the playoffs...
                          Fox: His Panthers are a far cry from that Superbowl team 3 years ago.
                          Marinelli: His Lions were 3-13, and generally aweful in that kind of way we've come to expect from Detroit these days.
                          Childress: Eh, the Vikings are in a "rebuilding" year i guess.
                          Coughlin: With all their talent, the Giants could still not be consistent enough to make a real playoff run (they pretty much got in by default, not due to amazing effort or skill).
                          Holmgren: Seattle have been kind of touch and go ever since Mike took over. One year they look real good, the next they stumble into the playoffs. Hardly what he had going in Green Bay.
                          Gibbs: Came back from the dead and didn't he do well this year?

                          For the record, the average record of those coaches over 55 is about 6-10, which includes Schottenheimer's Chargers (which is a statistical outlier). ... 6-10 hey thats not that bad... maybe i'm wrong then. I guess old coaches are the way to go
                          You take the 15 coaches I named, listed their problems, and place their problems at the feet of ONLY the coaches. Ever think that a teams problems come from more than just the coaches? Maybe, just maybe, it could be the players? Hell, you can also throw in the front office personnel as well. Listen, don't be so dumb to tell me that a teams problems come from the coach and coach only, its a team problem. There are teams in there where it simply isn't going to change the outcome of the year depending if you make a head coaching change, some teams are just terrible regardless, some teams are good regardless. Being prepared is the responsibility of the coach, but some of these teams have far worse problems than just being prepared. And BTW, out of the 15 coaches I did name, 6 of them were in the playoffs this year, and one of them is going to the SuperBowl. Again, I prove that the age of a coach is irrelevant to the success of a team.

                          Agreed. Bilichick turns 55 this year, and as we all know thats the year that coaches officially become old... and well crappy. I'll give the Pats 3 years before Bilichick either retires or gets canned. Speaking of which Parcells finally gave up the ghost... and about 4 or 5 years after when he should of.
                          We're getting off track here, all I want to say is how f*cking stupid this comment is, which it is really, REALLY, stupid. In 2003, the Cowboys had consecutive 5-11 records, when Parcells started, by 2006, the Cowboys were in their second playoff appearance in 4 years, and you tell me that Parcells should have retired 4-5 years ago? So he didn't make a difference at Dallas? Im somewhat confused, I thought the point of a record in the NFL was to determine who went to the playoffs? You have no knowledge of football, I just proved that in the last post, and am proving it again in this post.

                          Keep going "dash cunning" you're on a roll, just keep dumping that gas on the fire.....:)
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                          • #28
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                            well! this got interesting

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                            • #29
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                              wow...
                              screw typing all that crap...
                              the higher you go, the easier it is to fall, thats what just happened.
                              when brady threw that last pick i think i popped a chubby, not cuz poor peyton hasnt been to a superbowl b4... cuz brady is so overrated and i like to see people who are overblown finally get put back in their place
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                              • #30
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                                hahaha ya hes not the best at QB but when it comes down to it hes gotten the job done...if winning 3 SB's makes u overrated then hell Elway was and Montana...damn it must suck bein a overrated QB in the NFL...u wanna talk overrated...michael vick is def the most overrated qb out there next to McNabb


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