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  • #16
    Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

    wish i could give you a confident answer straight from the mouth of GM, but the only backing GM will hook me up with is most likely a small note of the existence of a crash sensing and diagnostic module.
    Originally posted by kala
    BLLDOGG, what's SDM?



    :)
    uhhhh... its the module for airbag and black box accident crash data.



    AIR BAG SDM / BLACK BOX / EDR / CRASH DATA AVAILABLE (depending on year and model)

    Vehicle speed (in five one-second intervals preceding impact)
    Engine speed (in five one-second intervals preceding impact)
    Brake status (in five one-second intervals preceding impact)
    Throttle position (in five one-second intervals preceding impact)
    Driver's seat belt state (On/Off)
    Passenger's airbag enabled or disabled state (On/Off)
    Airbag Warning Lamp status (On/Off)
    Time from vehicle impact to airbag deployment
    Maximum Delta-V ( DV ) for near-deployment event
    Delta-V ( DV ) vs. time for frontal airbag deployment event
    Time from vehicle impact to time of maximum Delta-V ( DV )
    Time between near-deploy and deploy event (if within 5 seconds)



    still unconvinced?
    allow me to destroy your doubts with an article from the national highway traffic safety administration's own website (nhtsa.gov)
    it is in pdf format and is basically archiving a usa today article.

    http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/edr-sit...ack_boxes-.pdf

    relevant quote:
    "Motorists never learned that ''it would be possible for GM, or anyone else
    to whom GM provided the data surreptitiously recorded by the SDM, to
    invade the driver's privacy and monitor the particular driver's driving
    characteristics and seatbelt use habits at a particular point in time,'' the
    lawsuit alleges.
    The lawsuit targets the 1999 model year or later for eight cars: the Chevrolet
    Corvette and Camaro; the Pontiac Firebird; the Cadillac DeVille, El
    Dorado, and Seville; and the Buick Century and Park Avenue."
    Last edited by BobDoLe; 04-18-2007, 10:57 PM.

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    • #17
      Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

      ^^^^:bowdown: ........wow, we do have it! ......something to keep in mind if i get into an accident.......... i think GM should have a consent paper for buyers to sign when buying a new car ......... if not, they might get into trouble for invasion of privacy..........



      :)
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      • #18
        Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

        im wondering if thats why my 87 gta didnt start after i wrecked it? i tried and tried to start it after i wrecked it and it wouldnt start...i know its a 87 but still why else wouldnt it start? other then the maf sensor was broke...

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        • #19
          Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

          Originally posted by 96greenmachine
          im wondering if thats why my 87 gta didnt start after i wrecked it? i tried and tried to start it after i wrecked it and it wouldnt start...i know its a 87 but still why else wouldnt it start? other then the maf sensor was broke...
          was my verstion of hte black box removed?

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          • #20
            Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

            Does it have a mic?

            I don't want anyone to hear me crying when my car flips!
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            • #21
              Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

              Originally posted by DAS BOOT
              actually depending on the state they do... I think on most f-bodies its located on the passenger side right under the hood, all the way up by the firewall. You will see a small box, with tons of wires going into it(sensors, collecting info) I'd remove it and then you will be safe when you drive.

              thats the pcm, or computer that controlls almost everything.... then theres the bcu that controlls other **** like the windows...

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              • #22
                Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                Originally posted by DAS BOOT
                actually depending on the state they do... I think on most f-bodies its located on the passenger side right under the hood, all the way up by the firewall. You will see a small box, with tons of wires going into it(sensors, collecting info) I'd remove it and then you will be safe when you drive.
                That post has "sarcasm" written all over it ............ don't mind him, Big Tymer



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                • #23
                  Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                  it says 99 and up so im guessing my 98 doesnt have it :-)

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                  • #24
                    Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                    Originally posted by DAS BOOT
                    was my verstion of hte black box removed?
                    Lol


                    Jack to the rescue. Next up he'll prove that the MLB is monitoring us from outer space


                    Originally posted by SSMOWS6
                    i mean, you can always fly wes out there and since he's a tool sometimes, fashion him into a plow for the maro
                    R.I.P. '07 Pats
                    Still... 18-1 > 1 and done

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                    • #25
                      Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                      Originally posted by Fireball27
                      Lol


                      Jack to the rescue. Next up he'll prove that the MLB is monitoring us from outer space
                      god bless the simpsons:)

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                      • #26
                        Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                        this may be a bit off from the black box but its similar...in the 80s camaros when you crashed (pretty hard) the speedo and tach pressed against the gauge and left a white mark, at whatever you were doing so the police could tell right then. if im not wrong the backing of the gauge was paper. (saw that on tv)

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                        • #27
                          Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                          Originally posted by slpbirdy00
                          this may be a bit off from the black box but its similar...in the 80s camaros when you crashed (pretty hard) the speedo and tach pressed against the gauge and left a white mark, at whatever you were doing so the police could tell right then. if im not wrong the backing of the gauge was paper. (saw that on tv)
                          And on a few I know the needle stayed at the mph that the impact occured. If you hit the wall at 50 then the needle stayed at 50.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                            Originally posted by josh98bird
                            And on a few I know the needle stayed at the mph that the impact occured. If you hit the wall at 50 then the needle stayed at 50.
                            thats kind of a cheesy way to do it, but ingenious at the same time... cool.
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                            • #29
                              Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                              Originally posted by Fireball27
                              Lol


                              Jack to the rescue. Next up he'll prove that the MLB is monitoring us from outer space
                              :bowdown: simpsons

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                              • #30
                                Re: Does our cars have "black boxes" ?

                                i told you before thats where the info is stored, it's in there in my 96 camaro .

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