gas prices are out of freakin' control

[4thgenowner]

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^ Ok, you hate bush... we get it.

Who doesn't like bush? It's like flossing...

[rt1]

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Who doesn't like bush? It's like flossing...

Giggity!

Rob

[Nikos95]

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Shouldn't complain too much.. Sucks sure..

But honestly in parts of Europe they are paying 5-6$ PER LITER!

What we need is some friggen fuel economy requirements on suvs... Too many people buy them, drive them daily just because they are "cool and safe" and they NEVER use them and rarely have more than 1-2 people in them. This SUV gimmick going around is causing the demand to scream, especially with the popularity of the Jeep Grand Cherokee *15mpg highway* please a Chevy 2500HD with a big block gets better millage than that.

Anyways ya it sucks, but I'm part of the problem so I wont complain... Not SUV side, but I drive my Iroc around all over... 8-10mpg city, 20-24 highway depending on temperature and moisture in the air... *Damn carbs* :)

PS- Politics has almost nothing to do with our gas prices.. I know a lot of people who are in the industry and they will tell you straight out its the "AMERICAN" oil companies.. The united states is the #1 oil supplier, don't let people fool you into thinking otherwise.. Also being in the US, most of our oil we pump comes from Canada. It's literally a simple game of supply/demand and every single person who works for a large oil company I know will tell you that exact thing straight up.

[pumpkinking13x]

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I just bend over and pay it. 40 bucks a week for gas, ah well. Don't like it? Buy a hybrid, buy a moped. There ya go.


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[silvachris1]

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Shouldn't complain too much.. Sucks sure..

But honestly in parts of Europe they are paying 5-6$ PER LITER!

I know, Europe has been gettin the shaft for a while now. Their economy is used to it. Their auto market has adapted to it. How long have the prices been like that in Europe? It didn't just happen over the course of 4 years there. I found a receipt for gas last night in an envelope, from Nov. 6th, 2006 and gas was $2.26 per gallon. In April 2004 gas was $1.69 for a gallon of regular. I understand that we are going to have to adapt to the changes, that's fine with me, but where does it stop?

What we need is some friggen fuel economy requirements on suvs... Too many people buy them, drive them daily just because they are "cool and safe" and they NEVER use them and rarely have more than 1-2 people in them. This SUV gimmick going around is causing the demand to scream, especially with the popularity of the Jeep Grand Cherokee *15mpg highway* please a Chevy 2500HD with a big block gets better millage than that.

I'll agree to that. We have a 2001 GMC Yukon. It rarely has more than 2 people in it. When mom and dad got it, gas prices weren't too crazy, and we did have alot more use for it. It's very handy for road trips though. I don't care what the EPA ratings are on it, we got 22mpg highway, after idling for 3.5 hours, loaded down with 5 people and luggage for 8. That's pretty good, comparable to other things on the road right now. However, that doesn't make up for the other times that it's just carrying around 1 person. Mom and dad have looked into getting something else for about 2 years now, but the ammount of money they would lose on the trade in or depreciation is just too much with their expenses right now. I'd say this time next year it will be gone, replaced with something much smaller. Especially since the need for something so large with 4x4 is not there anymore.

Anyways ya it sucks, but I'm part of the problem so I wont complain... Not SUV side, but I drive my Iroc around all over... 8-10mpg city, 20-24 highway depending on temperature and moisture in the air... *Damn carbs* :)

Lol, I understand that. We all like to go out and drive for fun. I enjoy taking dads 71 Camaro out sometimes.

PS- Politics has almost nothing to do with our gas prices.. I know a lot of people who are in the industry and they will tell you straight out its the "AMERICAN" oil companies.. The united states is the #1 oil supplier, don't let people fool you into thinking otherwise.. Also being in the US, most of our oil we pump comes from Canada. It's literally a simple game of supply/demand and every single person who works for a large oil company I know will tell you that exact thing straight up.

Yep. I think it's something like 9% of our oil comes from the middle east. That's it. I don't understand why it's such a big deal when some no name group makes a threat to a Saudi facility. Until something happens, why should the prices jump? Price manipulation is all that is. I don't know how it's worked out, if it happens on Wall Street, or what.... I really don't care for that matter. I just want something steady. I don't care if the prices are $5.00 a gallon as long as they're steady so I can adapt to that. It's hard to figure out your budget, and what you can and cannot do anymore with prices fluccuating (or really just climbing) so much. Hopefully in 5-10 years, it wont matter anymore, hopefully we will have found ways to adapt to the price changes. I just hope it doesn't get to the point where all other goods get too expensive to buy because of their shipping costs. Can you imagine milk for 7 bucks a gallon, and 9 dollars for a loaf of bread? Things are gonna have to change, and I think this country is finally realizing it, we just don't know how yet.

I just bend over and pay it. 40 bucks a week for gas, ah well. Don't like it? Buy a hybrid, buy a moped. There ya go.

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Lol, yep, I won't get a hybrid, too much initial cost, but the moped/bike idea will happen soon. Prolly at the end of summer. My goal is to get a bike prices hit $4.25. We'll see.

[BLLDOGG]

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HAHAHA! how many millions of people say they will do something like riding a bike when gas prices reach 2.50 ..... 2.75 ...... 3.00 ...... 3.25 ....... 3.50 ...... etc. I ride my bicycle and so does my fiancée. either your going to do it or your not. don't fool yourselves people. If you car enough to ***** you should care enough to do something about it.

[JusFlyinBy]

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Lol, yep, I won't get a hybrid, too much initial cost, but the moped/bike idea will happen soon. Prolly at the end of summer. My goal is to get a bike prices hit $4.25. We'll see.

Don't forget, if you buy a bike, consider the added insurance costs, your initial up front cash purchase, the extra maintenance, inspection, and dmv fees. Subtract out all the days its too cold or raining, then add it all up and see if getting a few more mpg is really saving you anything.

Same thing about moving closer to your job... If you are moving to an urban area where the property values and cost of living is higher, big deal. You shaved 20 miles off your commute one way. Congratulations, you're using less gas, but you're still blowing more money.

Trust me. Im not b*tching about gas prices. I own three vehicles, and they all require premium gas and get OK gas mileages at best, lol. Im just questioning some of these "alternatives".

Edit - I just wanted to emphasize the word require because I know theres people who waste money on 93 for no reason.

[kala]

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Bicycle FTW !!!



:)

[Mogobs30th]

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I love the responses from everyone saying to move closer to work if the gas is too high. What if we don't all work in one location? Move everytime I have to go to a new job site? The gas prices are rediculous, and I honestly can't do anything about it, unless I work inside the chicago Loop. I would take public transportation if that was the case, but its not. I could be working anywhere in Cook county any day of the week, and public transportation simply isn't a viable solution.

And I am not quitting my job because of the gas, so something has to change.

[V6Bob]

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I love the responses from everyone saying to move closer to work if the gas is too high. What if we don't all work in one location? Move everytime I have to go to a new job site? The gas prices are rediculous, and I honestly can't do anything about it, unless I work inside the chicago Loop. I would take public transportation if that was the case, but its not. I could be working anywhere in Cook county any day of the week, and public transportation simply isn't a viable solution.

And I am not quitting my job because of the gas, so something has to change.

You make some excellent points.

Basically we've organized our whole society around cheap gas. So things are going to have to change.

But what won't change is the forces that are driving gas prices up. The rest of the world is getting richer and starting to use energy like... Americans. And every year the world discovers less new oil than the increase in demand, even though we search very hard. Gas prices shift and they may go down for a while but long term, they're headed nowhere but up.

Good book on all this:

http://www.amazon.com/End-Oil-Edge-P...0486201&sr=8-1

[96greenmachine]

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definetly think suv's need laws...like the hover lane u gotta have at least 2 people in the car with you..instead have at least 3-4 people or more cuz yeah suvs is pathetic as far as how much gas they consume and how many gallons it takes to fillem up...suv's has got to be at least 55% of where the gas all goes....

[Nikos95]

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Well to give you guys something to think about...

In the next 5-10 years, the country is talking about changing to an E20 standard in fuel..

Now we all know ethanol causes bad corrosion.. Well did you know that E20 is worse than E10 *most likely*, now did you know that its WORSE than E85?

If I were you I would start setting your cars up to run E85 or even E100.. If you actually take advantage of the fact you can run 14:1 compression and more, it actually produces "MORE" power or the same amount of fuel burned. The only reason people always see worse millage and performance with it in their everyday Ford Taurus is because the car was not built to take advantage of it, only to use it.

Anyways some stuff to think about. Especially you hot headed performance nut cases. It burns cooler, more evenly, and will take much higher compression safely. We had a 6 hour discussion about it at our local fbody meeting with a few guys who are involved in major studies of E10 E20 E85 and E100 use.

Don't worry you can build your fuel lines, tanks, and pumps so you don't have to worry about the corrosion effects... This information has been making me consider after market fuel injection for my '89 Iroc.

[Camarorulz]

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1) Claiming refining issues are affecting prices is bull$hit. Refining capacity hasn't changed between winter and now, so why have prices skyrocketed by as much as $1/gallon?

2) The oil companies are full of greedy bastards concerned with only one thing: profit.

3) The only way to drop the price is to affect demand, (i.e. drive less or get a vehicle that consumes less gas.)

Stick it to the oil companies by using less.

[silvachris1]

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HAHAHA! how many millions of people say they will do something like riding a bike when gas prices reach 2.50 ..... 2.75 ...... 3.00 ...... 3.25 ....... 3.50 ...... etc. I ride my bicycle and so does my fiancée. either your going to do it or your not. don't fool yourselves people. If you car enough to ***** you should care enough to do something about it.

I dunno if that was directed toward me or now. I was talking about buying a motorcycle or moped or something. I do ride a bicycle when I can, ocassionally to class and back. There's really no other trip that I can use a bicycle for.

Don't forget, if you buy a bike, consider the added insurance costs, your initial up front cash purchase, the extra maintenance, inspection, and dmv fees. Subtract out all the days its too cold or raining, then add it all up and see if getting a few more mpg is really saving you anything.

Yeah, I know. I've been looking into all of that. I've gotta work up a budget and see where I stand on the finances. I'll be getting a used bike, so that's cheaper, and I plan on gettin a 600 or smaller if I get a street bike, insurance rates jump when you go above 600. I've been wanting a bike for a while anyways. The big surprise fees are the riding gear.

Same thing about moving closer to your job... If you are moving to an urban area where the property values and cost of living is higher, big deal. You shaved 20 miles off your commute one way. Congratulations, you're using less gas, but you're still blowing more money.

Exactly.

You make some excellent points.

Basically we've organized our whole society around cheap gas. So things are going to have to change.

But what won't change is the forces that are driving gas prices up. The rest of the world is getting richer and starting to use energy like... Americans. And every year the world discovers less new oil than the increase in demand, even though we search very hard. Gas prices shift and they may go down for a while but long term, they're headed nowhere but up.

Yup ^^

[SpeedingFirebird]

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2) The oil companies are full of greedy bastards concerned with only one thing: profit.

and what for profit company is not?