MP3 Player Stolen out of my Desk

[WishIHad$$$]

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because they took the job of a teacher, part of it is dealing with kids

.......right

For the record, I always have my cell phone in class, and most of my classes it is strictly forbidden. I'm in College so it's a little different, but I keep my phone on vibrate. The reason being I have clients calling me and they're not going to play phone tag with me, they're going to spend their money somewhere else. So I'd rather miss 5 minutes of lecture than lose commission.

Anyways I guess my point is their policy is if it goes off in class, they can confiscate it. I've forgotten to put it on vibrate before, and guess what...I didn't give up my phone. I walked out. No teacher can physically confiscate it from an unwilling student, they can only ask for it. I would never give my phone up to a teacher unless it meant not doing so would make them permanantly kick me out of the class. Part of the reason being if the teacher drops it, loses it, fucl<s it up or whatever...I can almost expect something to happen with my property in someone else's hands.

The kid was not physically forced to give up his iPod, he agreed to let it be confiscated and handed it over.

[blown00]

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.......right

For the record, I always have my cell phone in class, and most of my classes it is strictly forbidden. I'm in College so it's a little different, but I keep my phone on vibrate. The reason being I have clients calling me and they're not going to play phone tag with me, they're going to spend their money somewhere else. So I'd rather miss 5 minutes of lecture than lose commission.

Anyways I guess my point is their policy is if it goes off in class, they can confiscate it. I've forgotten to put it on vibrate before, and guess what...I didn't give up my phone. I walked out. No teacher can physically confiscate it from an unwilling student, they can only ask for it. I would never give my phone up to a teacher unless it meant not doing so would make them permanantly kick me out of the class. Part of the reason being if the teacher drops it, loses it, fucl<s it up or whatever...I can almost expect something to happen with my property in someone else's hands.

The kid was not physically forced to give up his iPod, he agreed to let it be confiscated and handed it over.

Remember the demographic on this site. Half of these guys are in HS, or just got out of it. I'm almost 21, yea, you may say that's not much older, but you learn a lot about life and everything in general. They'll learn, eventually.

[vanbibber]

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kids these days :shame:

i would have told the kid tough shyt.

[Shirl]

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Couldn't of said it better myself, i am staying out of this thread now because it is pointless. i guess the whole moral was "dont break the rules" yes we know we're not 14. I believe this thread accomplished nothing and Shril was just ranting over the net.

You really had nothing constructive to offer anyway. And it's SHIRL.


Everyone else, thanks. I really like the suggestion of putting the disclaimer in the rules at the beginning of the year. I will suggest that to the administration.

[Shirl]

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kids these days :shame:

i would have told the kid tough shyt.

Another student told him that.
I basically said "sorry, someone must have taken it out of the drawer."

[Shirl]

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Teachers used to confinscate hats at our school if you were caught wearing them...No matter who took the hat, they all went to the SAME lock up in the office and you had to pay either 2 dollars to get your hat back, or do so many hours of community service...

Damn! Now that's a GREAT IDEA!!! :tup:

[LETZRIDE]

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You really had nothing constructive to offer anyway. And it's SHIRL.


Everyone else, thanks. I really like the suggestion of putting the disclaimer in the rules at the beginning of the year. I will suggest that to the administration.

LMFAO...your welcome...even though you called half of us idiots...:D

[Tom Rs]

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why be constructive, so someone can call me an idiot over the web ? who are the kids around here ?

[silvachris1]

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Did you read my whole post or just parts of it? I never said let him stay in class and listen to it...reread what I wrote...Thats what I said...at this age, its their choice if there gunna sit and learn...you think in university someone is going to sit and hold your hand and tell you to pay attention? if you do then you need a serious wake up call...And its not "Letting it slide" in the sense of your not doing anything...your kicking them out of class until they are ready to learn. I dont know about your school policy shirl...but back in my old highschool...Ipods, cell phones, mp3's etc were not allowed...but school policy never said anything about teachers confinscating them...You shouldn't HAVE to confinscate them, because if you do...then the school should be providing you with a place to put them...Teachers used to confinscate hats at our school if you were caught wearing them...No matter who took the hat, they all went to the SAME lock up in the office and you had to pay either 2 dollars to get your hat back, or do so many hours of community service...

Yeah, somehow I managed to get through it all, lol. I know you said to kick them out of the class, I really did read that.... Shirl doesn't do that kind of thing though, as she stated (did you read her post?) Do I think somebody is gonna sit and hold my hand in university? I've got two Associates Degrees, one Bachelors Degree, and a Certificate (Drafting + Design, Mech. Engineering, and Manufacturing). I know what it takes to make it through my education. A big part of it was following the simple rules laid out by our institution. The rest was giving a crap and trying.

No cheating: You get caught, you're dropped from the class with a failing grade, it goes on your academic record, and the professor who catches you makes it a point to tell all future employers, who ask about you, that you are a cheater.
No stealing: You steal something, it goes on your academic record, a hold is placed on your account so you can't register for classes, and you have to pay for what was stolen. If the crime is big enough, they'll prosecute you as well.
My Favorite... No parking in commuter lots without a permit: Simple, no permit, no park. $10 dollar fee, don't pay and a hold is placed on your account until it gets paid.
Phones must be on silent: Simple there, just turn it to silent when you come to class. They aren't going to confiscate somebodys phone where I'm enrolled, but that person will receive a warning about it. This policy varies from professor to professor, but depending on what they have in the syllabus, they can drop you from a class if you are a constant disturbance.

What I'm gettin at with all that crap I just listed is that there are simple rules to life, and they've gotta be followed.

I guess for me, why I'm still ranting along here is because this whole country has just stopped upholding rules, and quit valuing respect for others.

......... :shakeshead:

[LETZRIDE]

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Yeah, somehow I managed to get through it all, lol. I know you said to kick them out of the class, I really did read that.... Shirl doesn't do that kind of thing though, as she stated (did you read her post?) Do I think somebody is gonna sit and hold my hand in university? I've got two Associates Degrees, one Bachelors Degree, and a Certificate (Drafting + Design, Mech. Engineering, and Manufacturing). I know what it takes to make it through my education. A big part of it was following the simple rules laid out by our institution. The rest was giving a crap and trying.

No cheating: You get caught, you're dropped from the class with a failing grade, it goes on your academic record, and the professor who catches you makes it a point to tell all future employers, who ask about you, that you are a cheater.
No stealing: You steal something, it goes on your academic record, a hold is placed on your account so you can't register for classes, and you have to pay for what was stolen. If the crime is big enough, they'll prosecute you as well.
My Favorite... No parking in commuter lots without a permit: Simple, no permit, no park. $10 dollar fee, don't pay and a hold is placed on your account until it gets paid.
Phones must be on silent: Simple there, just turn it to silent when you come to class. They aren't going to confiscate somebodys phone where I'm enrolled, but that person will receive a warning about it. This policy varies from professor to professor, but depending on what they have in the syllabus, they can drop you from a class if you are a constant disturbance.

What I'm gettin at with all that crap I just listed is that there are simple rules to life, and they've gotta be followed.

I guess for me, why I'm still ranting along here is because this whole country has just stopped upholding rules, and quit valuing respect for others.

......... :shakeshead:

LOL...she posted while I was typing...congrats on the degrees...takes alot of hardwork to get em...but like you said part of it is giving a crap...if you dont give a crap then it doesnt matter how much someone holds your hand...you still dont give a crap and its not going to change anything...For those kids there is absolutly nothing that shirl can do to make them learn...they are going to have to learn the hard way thats it...so if she wants to continue to fight that then shes gunna have a lot of stress...I would imagen anyways...

[silvachris1]

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True to an extent. But for some kids, even in high school, they just need to see that somebody does care if they make it. My little brother in law is in that situation right now. None of his teachers give a crap at that school. It hasn't changed since I left there in 2001.

[Shirl]

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LOL...she posted while I was typing...congrats on the degrees...takes alot of hardwork to get em...but like you said part of it is giving a crap...if you dont give a crap then it doesnt matter how much someone holds your hand...you still dont give a crap and its not going to change anything...For those kids there is absolutly nothing that shirl can do to make them learn...they are going to have to learn the hard way thats it...so if she wants to continue to fight that then shes gunna have a lot of stress...I would imagen anyways...

I don't fight any student who doesn't want to learn or do anything. I could care less. I just give them a "0" for incomplete work which eventually leads to an "F" and no credit. Those types of kids usually end up delivering pizzas somewhere after they graduate or they work at some other lame minimum wage job. Then there are the ones that excel and want to make themselves better. That makes my job very rewarding. I've had several go into advertising, architecture, graphics, ect. over the years.

[StrtRacer98]

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And on the other hand, why should she have to supply a secure space to store confiscated materials, or lose some space of her own by making room for these items?

I don't think she should have to supply a secure space for such items, but you would think for test/answer sheets / test scores and grading, things you may not want floating around to anyone that knows how to pull a drawer open...

which is obviously all it took seeing as its not watched over very closely and someone can just walk up, open the drawer and take whatever they want (ipod)..

[LETZRIDE]

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I don't fight any student who doesn't want to learn or do anything. I could care less. I just give them a "0" for incomplete work which eventually leads to an "F" and no credit. Those types of kids usually end up delivering pizzas somewhere after they graduate or they work at some other lame minimum wage job. Then there are the ones that excel and want to make themselves better. That makes my job very rewarding. I've had several go into advertising, architecture, graphics, ect. over the years.

:stp: What if I delivered Pizzas?...Id be offended right now...anyways I was thinking about this thread as I went to pick up my sister...and I was thinking...Everyone here is only looking at part of the problem...Yea ok he brought an Ipod to school against the rules...ok he listens to it in class when he is not supposed to...but with these kids, does anyone ever stop and ask why? ...Why is he listening to his Ipod during class? Is it because he just doesnt like following rules...or He thinks the class is boring? You know if you break down the issue and solve WHY hes wearing the Ipod in the first place...you might actually be able to help kids like this...If hes listening to the Ipod because he thinks the class is boring...maybe you need to change your teaching style up a bit...throw a curve ball in there...something unexpected...Some of my best classes where from teachers making it fun...they were creative..they connected on our level rather then thinking they were above us...just a thought...

[StrtRacer98]

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I know a guy that delivers pizza's and he makes a sh!t load of money, ... averages 25.00 an hour

Has his own apartment, drives a 03 honda civic for deliveries and a 05? Caddy escalade ext

also has a atv and dirtbike.... 19 yrs old

that is nothing to complain about