haha!

[t-topV6]

my brother just got a new car... an M5 v6 1998 camaro...its like a midnight blue... pretty nice... only thing is... it seemed to have more throttle responser and quicker accel than mine... i have a 96 A4 Y87... so i thought i was supposed to be faster... is it because his is a manual? or the different intake system? or what? i was kinda confused...

[RadRacer]

Re: haha!

5-speeds always seem faster than autos.

[Byrd14]

Re: haha!

yeah... but A4 has less chances of lossing... *driver error in missed shifts* unless hes really good...

[Texas02Fbody]

Re: haha!

1998 have a 3.8 (200 hp)
1996 have a 3.4 (160 hp)
Thats why it feels more responsive.

[ArticRider]

Re: haha!

1998 have a 3.8 (200 hp)
1996 have a 3.4 (160 hp)
Thats why it feels more responsive.

1996 was the year the 3.8 became standard on the V6. The last year to have the 3.4 was 1995. There were also some 3.8's avaialble on some f-bodies in 1995.

[nightrider2]

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the reason its a 2 part answer, 1) the T-5 has a 3.75 1st gear over the 4L60 3.06.

2) The 5 speeds came standard with a 3.23 rear and the autos have 3.08s.

so therefor on the V6 the 5 speed IS faster, in the 1/4(provided the driver doesn't suck) also the reason my 3.4(before the build) mildly modded, injectors C-B and CAI, could easily hang with auto 3.8s

[Mighty Thor]

Re: haha!

As long as he's not granny shifting you can beat him most of the time.

The cool thing about manual is that you can redline it at any gear while auto will shift it for you when it hits a certain RPM or load point.

Our auto is the same as the auto in vettes, so its stronger. Plus, in a straight line the only thing you have to worry about is your foot on the gas pedal. WHile with manual you have to release the gas pedal in order to shift.

[UDLOSE98]

Re: haha!

5 speed offers less parastatic drive train loss

[t-topV6]

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oh ok... thanks... so i would be faster in the 1/4 mile... it just doesn't seem like it

2) The 5 speeds came standard with a 3.23 rear and the autos have 3.08s.

yea... but the Y87 came with 3.42's right?

[UDLOSE98]

Re: haha!

you MAY be faster in the 1/4 all depends on launch/his shifting ability etc.


also the Manual trans is lighter than the Auto.

[t-topV6]

Re: haha!

you MAY be faster in the 1/4 all depends on launch/his shifting ability etc.


also the Manual trans is lighter than the Auto.

oh... ok... i didn't know that the manual actually did that much to performance... if he can beat an auto Y87... luckily i don't think hes a pro shifter

[DAS BOOT]

Re: haha!

-manual is lighter
-manual is geared better in the tranny(5 gears vs 4)
-Less drivetrain loss(more hp ot the wheels)
-3.23 rear end
-he can powershift(shifts harder)
-he can raise his shift points
-no Automatic Torque management in the computer
-he can "feather" the clutch to finess a better launch
-It just cooler

need we go on?

manuals are pretty much always faster, go ahead and race him. Autos may be more consistant for the average driver. But I was pretty consistant in my 5-speeds, I once hit the same time down to the 1/1000th of a second in the same night in the same car.

[t-topV6]

Re: haha!

looks like my next car will def. have to be a manual :P

[Niko97RS]

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at first i thought he bought a 98 M5


BMW

o well

[UDLOSE98]

Re: haha!

-manual is lighter
-manual is geared better in the tranny(5 gears vs 4)
-Less drivetrain loss(more hp ot the wheels)
-3.23 rear end
-he can powershift(shifts harder)
-he can raise his shift points
-no Automatic Torque management in the computer
-he can "feather" the clutch to finess a better launch
-It just cooler

need we go on?

manuals are pretty much always faster, go ahead and race him. Autos may be more consistant for the average driver. But I was pretty consistant in my 5-speeds, I once hit the same time down to the 1/1000th of a second in the same night in the same car.

eh, manuals are faster to a certain point, certainly in this circumstance, but highly modded 9 - 10 sec cars will benefit from a built auto over a built manual.

a bit off topic, but just to point out that they are helpful in certain cases.