haha!

[LETZRIDE]

Re: haha!

you MAY be faster in the 1/4 all depends on launch/his shifting ability etc.


also the Manual trans is lighter than the Auto.

wrong...auto is lighter

405.5 lbs - LS1 (5.7L) Auto with oil and flexplate
460.9 lbs - LS1 (5.7L) Manual with oil and flywheel
391.2 lbs - L36 (3.8L) Auto with oil and flexplate
428.8 lbs - L36 (3.8L) Manual with oil and flywheel

http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/fbody/weights.htm

gotta defend us A4's lol

[t-topV6]

Re: haha!

wrong...auto is lighter

405.5 lbs - LS1 (5.7L) Auto with oil and flexplate
460.9 lbs - LS1 (5.7L) Manual with oil and flywheel
391.2 lbs - L36 (3.8L) Auto with oil and flexplate
428.8 lbs - L36 (3.8L) Manual with oil and flywheel

http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/fbody/weights.htm

gotta defend us A4's lol

lol... so no im kinda of back to confused again... his 98 M5 has 3.23's and my 96 Y87 has 3.42's, has LSD and is lighter... so why is it that close? how can he still win?

[LETZRIDE]

Re: haha!

lol... so no im kinda of back to confused again... his 98 M5 has 3.23's and my 96 Y87 has 3.42's, has LSD and is lighter... so why is it that close? how can he still win?

did you race? ....like said before the autos have that torque management and crap...you have to tune the shift points and what not...maintenance on both cars could be a factor as well...

[t-topV6]

Re: haha!

did you race? ....like said before the autos have that torque management and crap...you have to tune the shift points and what not...maintenance on both cars could be a factor as well...

true.. i suppose... if i ever get enough mods ill probably have to look into a tune

[nightrider2]

Re: haha!

a tune will help modded or not....just get your shift points moved and get rid of that gay azz torque management.

As far as manuals being faster that auto, in a stock car, o hell freakin yea, in an 11-10 sec cars, you better be a damn good driver under 10s, no way

[t-topV6]

Re: haha!

a tune will help modded or not....just get your shift points moved and get rid of that gay azz torque management.

As far as manuals being faster that auto, in a stock car, o hell freakin yea, in an 11-10 sec cars, you better be a damn good driver under 10s, no way

what exactly is torque management? is it the same thing that limits the top speed?

[nightrider2]

Re: haha!

not really...it keeps the converter from locking IIRC its like having a bad clutch really

[TheGr8Schlotzky]

Re: haha!

with a quick tune, no one is going to be able to shift faster than an auto. From a roll, I'd take a manual, but our autos are great transmissions and I'd rather have it than a T5.

[Mighty Thor]

Re: haha!

Most of the heavy duty drag cars have auto, but for streets manuals are fun to drive. But in heavy traffic it makes me wanna throw it out the window.

If it's an F-body V6 i would always recommend y87 auto, but any other car I would say manual. Our best racers here are auto.

When I was first shopping for Firebird I ran into a black T-top bird with auto. Next to it was a red hard top bird with M5. I told the salesman I wanted a black t-top manual. He called around and could not find one in my 70miles radius from my area. I was dissappoint, but he said the black t-top has a y87 which is better than any manual. Ofcourse I was in love with the black bird and went for it. I'm glad I did.

[LETZRIDE]

Re: haha!

with a quick tune, no one is going to be able to shift faster than an auto. From a roll, I'd take a manual, but our autos are great transmissions and I'd rather have it than a T5.

yep...get a stall and it will fix the roll problem, as well as any launch issues...
y87 auto+ stall+ tuned shift pts= better then any manual, and manual driver out there

[youngsc]

Re: haha!

Less parasitic loss and taller first gear. With the 3.42's you'll more than likely still win in the 1/4.

[t-topV6]

Re: haha!

ok... but i know nothing about tunes... is it something a local car shop could do.. or what? how cheap?

[mestupryan]

Re: haha!

wrong...auto is lighter

405.5 lbs - LS1 (5.7L) Auto with oil and flexplate
460.9 lbs - LS1 (5.7L) Manual with oil and flywheel
391.2 lbs - L36 (3.8L) Auto with oil and flexplate
428.8 lbs - L36 (3.8L) Manual with oil and flywheel

http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/fbody/weights.htm

gotta defend us A4's lol

no way the 4L60E is lighter than the T5...coming from personal experience - i threw my back out just trying to lift the 4L60E up a little bit, but i could cradle and carry the T5

[nightrider2]

Re: haha!

t-5 weighs 75lbs. the t-56 weighs 156, you reference is WRONG

[mestupryan]

Re: haha!

t-5 weighs 75lbs. the t-56 weighs 156, you reference is WRONG

yep. weighed my 4L60E on the scale and it was right at 156 lbs i believe... and i thought the T5 seemed about half as heavy