V6's.. why do we get the most ****

[kala]

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^^^^^




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[firebird19_99]

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^ yes really except theirs this guy with that performance package, the y87/w68?? that makes me lil jealous........but overall everyone thats seen my car has liked it and its basically stock......she needs some new paint tho but im happy:banana:

[nascar24jd]

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ahhhh the old "why buy a v6 and mod it, when a stock V8 is still faster" example...

Such a true statement.

My answer is simple. I don't need to go faster, after all I am driving on the STREET. If people don't like my V6 then don't look at it. That has been my philosophy all along. I bought it for me, not to impress people...

[nascar24jd]

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I say **** it,

I didn't buy a car to race I bought it to drive to where I have to go. I like my car and those who don't, well..good for them. :banana:

Exactly right.

[DaBird19]

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i get the same **** but i get it from ppl who are better off walking then using the pieces of **** their driving. but yea always

[wilbar92]

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alot of it is, for along long time a 6 cylinder was a joke of a engine in what used to be very heavy american cars, 130hp was not alot to move a 3000-4000lb chunk of steel. and very few v6 cars got any kid of performance options, Were in a whole new field today, when u can squeeze 400hp out of a modded v6 in a 3000 lb car, versus the same car with a extra 400lbs from v8 with the same 400hp, v6's will woop up. im a v8 lover thru and thru but ill be the first o admit i've had my arse handed to me more than a time or two by something other than a v8, includding a stupid 4 cyclinder, yes stock for stock a v8 will almost always wins, thats just the way the market goes those who want performance want the bigger motor so thats where the research gets put into, but now days a v6 is a major competetor that 200-400lb weight difference is a big advantage, i had a 99 camaro go up against me last year that wooped me with ease and i ran a 12.6 that night with a bored over pontiac 455, we got to talking after the race he had a real wild 3.8 under his hood with a 6 spd and 4.56 rear gearing i seem to rember he ran either a 12.0 or 12.1 it was a pretty stripped down car, he told me it weighed in at only a few lbs over 2600 with him in it. I was very impressed but i know its not cheap to get a v6 down to those levels, thats another big factor, chevy v8's tend to be CHEAP to mod in general where their v6's change design so dang often they dont usually get alot of mods or arent worth it(like the 2.8's).

as a v8 lover i honestly do think our days are numbers, cars are getting alot lighter and 4 and 6 cylinders alot more powerful, especially once CAFE kicks in its going to be a 6 cylinder world, and those of us with v8's will be left trying to keep up, cars will hit a point where they are light enough and v6's powerful enough the weight/power ration difference between a 6 and a 8 will no longer justify the v8.

[ViperRider]

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What about the v10s and 12s?

[LETZRIDE]

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I dont really care what other ppl say...lotta ppl bench race...when ppl tell me my car is slow they start naming 30k cars that are faster then me, none of which they own...to me I dont care what they say...they are the uneducated ones, and most of the time they have no idea what they are talking about...anyone else that actually knows about cars will know they are dumb (talkin about ppl who bash my car personally) ...these kinda ppl I dont even waste my time arguing with...until they get a car and run me at the track there opinons mean f*** all to me...

[Oi Bird V8]

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hahahaha v6 supra? noob

[Mighty Thor]

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Well remember our drive train is old. It's been around since '95. That's a over 12 years old.

Back then a only 200hp V6 existed. Some of the V8's like the Mustang was only 215hp.

GM never bother to upgrade the V6. They basically kept it the way it was till 2004 when they finally cancelled Buick 3800 and retired the old workhorse.

[Camarodragcar2002]

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First off a LS1 60ft times are slow. 2.0 they get stock at best. Are N/A race car with just are heads, on a stock motor it gets 1.66 60ft. LS1 makes the power on the other end of the track thow for sure.

[Fireball27]

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Well remember our drive train is old. It's been around since '95. That's a over 12 years old.

Back then a only 200hp V6 existed. Some of the V8's like the Mustang was only 215hp.

GM never bother to upgrade the V6. They basically kept it the way it was till 2004 when they finally cancelled Buick 3800 and retired the old workhorse.

200hp in 1970 was a lot too, lol. No, but valid point.

[wilbar92]

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What about the v10s and 12s?

sorry i should have clarified that better, v8's will never drop from existance, i think we'll always have them but they'll end up being more confined to trucks or larger(work type) vans, heavier vehicles in general, if it doesnt reach a day that the diesel engines dont just take over that market. And this isnt something i have just thought up from the corners of my mind, My senior year of high school we had the head mech from a local ford dealership fill in for the year i became pretty good friends with him and have stayed close since, he started in 1971 and is still working there(shooting for 40 years) and he's told me thru the years he's worked there every year the v6 mustangs are increasing in the numbers the sell, and with the new ones the stock v8 vs the stock v6 the average comsumer gets more power than they need out of the v6, he's told me that almost half of the ppl buying mustangs are getting v6's, and a large percentage of those getting v8's are not getting them for the power or performance alot of them are getting them simply to have the v8. Im not saying this is something that well see happen in the next ten years, but 20 years from now i cant see v8's being the powerhouses they was were without some kind of major major break thru or until they can realy cut the weight on them, solid alumium blocks were a good start but it needs to be taken further. The markets turning away from v8's in everything except for the truck and larger svu line, between gas and insurance cost, i think that will be the ultimate death of the v8 in the market, Just a example look at the cars our fathers drove compared to most of our first cars, my dads first car was a 69 chevelle with a 396 under the hood, i had v6 exploder that couldnt hit 75 without turning itself off. the market has been leading away from big motors since the early 70's it will hit a point one day that there wont be enough market to make the manufactors
want to produce v8's in cars except for special lines like maybe the corvette and other similar cars.
as far as the v10's im still not convinced of them, i've driven a number, and it seems like the success with them from factory has not been constant, good reception in the working truck field, but not all that wonderful outside of that from what i've been told, havent personally owned one thou so i cant say.

[xmetallicaxguitaristx]

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hahahaha v6 supra? noob

lol ok I6 w/e

[pace2006]

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The markets turning away from v8's in everything except for the truck and larger svu line, between gas and insurance cost, i think that will be the ultimate death of the v8 in the market, Just a example look at the cars our fathers drove compared to most of our first cars, my dads first car was a 69 chevelle with a 396 under the hood, i had v6 exploder that couldnt hit 75 without turning itself off. the market has been leading away from big motors since the early 70's it will hit a point one day that there wont be enough market to make the manufactors
want to produce v8's in cars except for special lines like maybe the corvette and other similar cars.

It's already taking affect on the dealerships. I went car shopping for my parents in January and the only V8 cars on the lots were trucks, SUVs, and a few sports cars (corvette, mustang gt, etc). Most of the vehicles at the various lots were 4 cylinders, or smaller 6 cylinders. And even the 6 cylinder's numbers were limited. I couldn't even test drive the new 3.6 liter Malibu, because they had only received the 2.4 liter at the time. Today's car market is geared toward smaller engines and better fuel efficiency. This is pulling most people away from the larger V8 cars and trucks. This is also why you see a lot of trucks and SUVs in people's yards with For Sale signs stuck in the windows.

As for the people out there complaining about our cars being just a V6, well, that's their problem. I got my car because I had always admired the looks of the Camaro, but didn't need a "gas-guzzling" (although not much worse than my own car running dump rich), powerful V8 for a first car. Sure it would be nice to have one, but I didn't get this car for speed or high power. I got it because it had the looks that I wanted, slightly better gas mileage, and enough power and reliability to get me from one place to another. That is after all the original purpose of a car, transportation from Point A to Point B. Looks and performance are just additional perks.