Ford pumps up its V6 Mustang

[Mighty Thor]

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x2 It's been over 5 years since a fbody rolled off an assembly line, and yet a new stock Mustang GT still can't beat a stock LS1 fbody, and a V6 Stang can't beat a V6 fbody.

It's not HP that sells in the market place but brand loyalty. GM failed in so many ways that over the years they continue to disappoint fans. They had many opportunities to improve their product, but they're too focus on the Vette that they neglect everything else.

I think this thing would be a hot seller. Imagine the mods for it. There's a number of TT V6 stang in the low 11 already.

[Mogobs30th]

Re: Ford pumps up its V6 Mustang

It's not HP that sells in the market place but brand loyalty. GM failed in so many ways that over the years they continue to disappoint fans. They had many opportunities to improve their product, but they're too focus on the Vette that they neglect everything else.

I think this thing would be a hot seller. Imagine the mods for it. There's a number of TT V6 stang in the low 11 already.

I have to agree here. GM is too focused on that damn car to do anything about the rest of it. Hopefully some of their focus will turn towards the CTS-V.:naughty:

[LETZRIDE]

Re: Ford pumps up its V6 Mustang

The new v6 camaro will have 300hp NA. who the hell wants a twin turbo car that only makes 325 hp?

naw man ....260hp at best...but that ford twin turbo will have a **** load of mods for it...Im just sayin its a nice base to start at...I'd love the new camaro to have 300hp from the v6 n/A....but I cant see past 260...I think they said that to...

[Mighty Thor]

Re: Ford pumps up its V6 Mustang

naw man ....260hp at best...but that ford twin turbo will have a **** load of mods for it...Im just sayin its a nice base to start at...I'd love the new camaro to have 300hp from the v6 n/A....but I cant see past 260...I think they said that to...

WHo knows by 2010 when the Camaro comes out it will be 300hp. Right now the 3.6 is putting 258hp, so it may continue to gain HP.

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

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NEW YORK -- General Motors is considering a four-cylinder engine for the new Chevrolet Camaro as a response to rising fuel prices.

Speaking on the sidelines of the New York auto show, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said the drivetrain under consideration for the Camaro is the same high-performance one used in the Pontiac Solstice and Saturn Sky roadsters. It’s a 2.0-liter turbocharged, direct-injected four-cylinder rated at 260 hp. Lutz said that if fuel prices continue to climb, the four-cylinder Camaro could see production.

GM has said it plans V8 and V6 versions of the Camaro but otherwise has been secretive. Lutz confirmed that the V6 version of the Camaro will be powered by the same high-tech V6 used in the Cadillac CTS. It’s a direct-injected, 3.6-liter four-cam V6. In the CTS, the engine is rated at 304 hp.


Low-priced version dropped
In the Camaro, the 3.6 liter’s horsepower should be around 260, Lutz said, Fuel economy, he said, will be around 17 mpg city and 25 highway. That would place the V6 Camaro among best in class for a performance car.

Lutz said GM has dropped plans to offer a low-priced, entry-level Camaro with one of GM’s low-tech V6s. GM will position both the V6 and V8 versions of the Camaro as premium cars compared to the Camaro’s chief rival, the Ford Mustang.

The base model Mustang uses a 4.0-liter overhead-cam V6 rated at 210 hp. The base model Dodge Challenger, due in the fall, will use a 250-hp, 3.5-liter V6.

Most enthusiast attention has focused on the Camaro’s V8 engine, which is likely to be a 6.0-liter with about 400 hp. Lutz said the V8 will have a cylinder cutoff system that shuts down half the engine when the car reaches cruising speed. That will help it get better fuel economy.

But Lutz said he thinks most buyers will opt for the V6 because the performance will be strong, especially when the engine is combined with a manual transmission.

“Back in the old days, if you wanted a muscle car, to get a decent one, you had to buy the V8,” Lutz said. “And if you bought the V6, you got a fairly rough, unrefined pushrod engine with low horsepower and weasely performance.

“This time, the V6 is 260-odd horsepower, four overhead cams, very smooth and decent 0-to-60-mph times. And now the V6 is in its own right a very fast, very legitimate car.”


'We are going to be above Mustang'
Lutz said that with the V6, the Camaro achieves a nearly perfect 50-50 weight distribution: “With the V6, it is not a heavy car. The Camaro will be a very lively and engaging car,” he said.

Lutz would not talk specifically about the Camaro’s pricing. The car is scheduled to go on sale next February as a 2009 (?) model, but Lutz did say GM views the Camaro as better equipped than the Mustang, and the price will be higher.

The Mustang V6 coupe has a base price of $20,235. The V8 GT coupe begins at $26,825. Both prices include shipping.

“We are going to be above Mustang,” Lutz said. “We have a very sophisticated suspension system and, frankly, a much nicer interior. We are not going to try and match the Mustang on price. We are going to be premium-priced compared to the Mustang.”

From Lutz himself