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    Last month I sold some NASCAR tickets on e-bay two weeks and a few days before the event. My E-bay ad said I would mail in one business day using the USPS after payment was received. Two weeks and one day before the event, I mailed the tickets with delivery confirmation and insurance. (I asked for tracking and the USPS give me delivery confirmation instead. I did not notice at the time.) I sent the buyer the delivery confirmation number that night.

    A few days before the event, I checked online and noticed the tickets had not been delivered yet. I called the USPS several times, and they said the package was in Indiana and likely at the buyer's local PO. I sent the buyer several e-mails asking them to check with their local PO to see what was going on. NO response. The day before the event, the buyer sends me a pissed off e-mail stating I never mailed the tickets. I responded by asking her to check her local PO. I also sent her a message over E-bay in case her spam filter was dropping my e-mails. I also filed a formal complaint with the USPS. They were suppose to call me back in 24 hours and never did.

    Twenty-one days after mailing the tickets, I filed an insurance claim with the USPS. I send the buyer an e-mail stating if I get the insurance money, I will reimburse them fully including shipping costs. That night, no joke, the tickets are delivered (a week after the event so they are worthless). The buyer writes return to sender and sends them back. The post office denies the insurance claim because the tickets were delivered.

    The buyer filed a chargeback claim with her credit card. Paypal sent me an e-mail stating they were processing the claim, and I was to send them (over e-mail) a copy of the delivery conformation, receipt for the USPS, insurance, etc. I scan it all in and send it to them that night. I get an e-mail a day later asking for the same thing. I send it to them again, and send a follow-up e-mail asking if the received it. No response.

    A few days ago, I get an e-mail from Paypal. They issued the chargeback to the buyer, docked my account the amount, and charged me a ****ing fee! Now I am pissed. I send an angry e-mail to Paypal asking what was up, and they said I never responded to their request for the shipping info! I forward them the three e-mails I sent, and they said they cannot accept attachments. So I ask how the heck they expected me to send this stuff, and they provided a fax number. I faxed the documents over the next day. Meanwhile, Paypal said since buyer refused the package, so it was a dispute to be settled between the buyer and I, and it was not Paypal's problem any more. I told them they docked me the money AND charged me a fee, and it was their problem. I have heard nothing from them in a few days.

    Certainly, I understand the buyer's position. She paid for something she could not use. I understand the USPS's position: the package (eventually) arrived.

    However, as per my Ee-bay ad, I did everything promised. I also went out of my way to call the PO several times, send the buyer several e-mails, and do whatever I could think of to prevent this from happening.

    I am getting ****ed here. Not just the tickets, but the e-bay fee and now this f-ing paypal fee. What options do I have? I suspect nothing. :rant:

    Why the F does this crap keep happening to me? :mad: This world is REALLY pissing me off. :mad:


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  • #2
    Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

    damn dude, that sucks. what is the buyer saying? is she helping you at all?

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    • #3
      Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

      Originally posted by tmon930 View Post
      damn dude, that sucks. what is the buyer saying? is she helping you at all?
      Besides her one angry e-mail, she has not communicated to me at all.


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      • #4
        Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

        gay. i couldn't begin to tell you what you need to do. good luck with it all though.

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        • #5
          Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

          How much was the total ticket sale and shipping total?
          *Matt


          Old people shouldnt use the internet.

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          • #6
            Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

            Originally posted by StrtRacer98 View Post
            How much was the total ticket sale and shipping total?
            $243 and some change.


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            • #7
              Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

              Ive had alot of trouble with the post office in the past, Same problem but not alot of money involved.

              Send a package, doesnt arrive for 4 to 5 weeks, gets lost, then found and sent.. then they arent responsible for it. It's B.S.
              *Matt


              Old people shouldnt use the internet.

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              • #8
                Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                just me: buyer gets $$$ back, never use usps again for e-bay items, fight paypal on their bogus fee that they imposed
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                • #9
                  Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                  if u have the emails attempting to contact the seller and paypal w/ datestamps and such, and you did everything correctly per your ebay ad, then ebay nor paypal have any right to hold you responsible...the USPS will be late everyonce and a while, that's just reality. The fact that the buyer sent u an accusing email proves they never checked their mail, and therefore, also have no right to hold you responsible...

                  looks like u need to get phone #'s...im not familiar w/ ebay or paypal, but im sure theres some type of customer service you could contact...

                  and how could the seller be re-imbursed in the first place? did you state in ur ad that you would re-imburse if the USPS was late? If not, then you did everything you said you would...if was out of ur hands. that was the buyers risk, and you were not legally required to pay back...

                  see why i dont wanna deal w/ paypal?...hope ya get this sorted out man...

                  edit: i agree w/ slow to go, reimbursement would be the decent thing to do, but the chargeback in my eyes wasnt warranted...u sold, the buyer paid, the buyer (thou late) received...should be settled between u and buyer, not u, paypal, ebay, credit card company, and buyer
                  Last edited by 95astrovan; 04-30-2008, 10:26 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                    USPS sucks! I will never ship anything with them because I've had nothing but bad experiences. My advice: live & learn, you're going to end up spending a lot of time fighting the fees. It's not right at all that you're getting charged, but sometimes you just gotta move on.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                      Originally posted by 3.4 slow to go View Post
                      just me: buyer gets $$$ back, never use usps again for e-bay items, fight paypal on their bogus fee that they imposed
                      That's my conclusion. :mad:

                      I doubt paypal with reverse the reversal.


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                      • #12
                        Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                        Originally posted by SpeedingFirebird View Post
                        That's my conclusion. :mad:

                        I doubt paypal with reverse the reversal.
                        man if you just move on it will continue, all the companies (ebay, paypal,etc...) will get their money and not be held acountable.
                        bottom line is the working joes will continue to get screwed just like you
                        fight it man ...just my 2pennies
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                        • #13
                          Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                          Future tip - stubhub has really had their stuff together when buying and selling tickets. I avoid ebay and paypal for stuff like this.
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                          • #14
                            Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                            Originally posted by ironranger View Post
                            man if you just move on it will continue, all the companies (ebay, paypal,etc...) will get their money and not be held acountable.
                            bottom line is the working joes will continue to get screwed just like you
                            fight it man ...just my 2pennies
                            Oh, I will keep fighting it, but the conclusion is likely to be the same. I take pride in being a complete a-hole to sh-t heads like Paypal.


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                            • #15
                              Re: Getting screwed - what would you do?

                              Originally posted by SpeedingFirebird View Post
                              Oh, I will keep fighting it, but the conclusion is likely to be the same. I take pride in being a complete a-hole to sh-t heads like Paypal.
                              well you got me my tickets so thanks :tup:
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