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Here's a secert for you. Don't stress or worry about too much. One way or another life will get you in a rough direction of where you need to be. Just remember the most important thing, in 100 years none of this **** is going to matter.
Let's flip a coin. Heads I get tail, Tails I get head.
Well I will be the first to say it. Join the military. I know it’s a life changing thing to do, but look at all the upsides to it.
1. You always get a pay check. And with how the economy is doing right now that is a big thing.
2. Your medical is covered. For someone right out of HS or with a low paying job, this is another plus.
3. The military gives you the chance to go to school (the bill is mostly paid by them) and it extends your choice on what you want to get your degree in.
4. Your job is pretty much like a free job in the civilian word. Example: Say you are a finance person. You will get an accounting SEI so its pretty much like you can finish an accounting degree with almost no work.
5. You could travel and see other parts of the world. Not just Iraq!
6. You meet people from all over (not always a good thing) but you make new friends, and you have another family.
7. It is easier to get a job once you get out, cuz most places want someone who knows how to get the job done, be on time, and can manage other people.
Now there are plenty of downsides to being in the military, and I am in no way trying to be a recruiter here. I am just saying you can always look into it, and you don’t have to join. I just want to give you another option.
Communications Wireman, IBEW Local 134 in Chicago, IL. I started out making nothing, I mean nothing, for 3 months while in my pre-apprenticeship. Got in the field making a little less than $13 an hour. My apprenticeship will end with an associates degree for what I do, and then I will be working on my bachelors in Telecommunications. Going to also be taking Cisco cert classes in the near future. With JUST my journeyman card, I will be clearing mid $70's, with certain BICSI, Cisco, my bachelor's, and certain other certs, I can clear $150k with the right company, although I think its going to be atleast 6 years before thats possible.
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I agree, school and hard work pay off big divedends, but you don't always have to go to school to make good money. I graduated from high school, waited a year and then got into the golf business, I'm an assistant pro at a country club. You go through a three year training program to become a PGA member, and, upon election to Membership you are eligible for Head Pro and Director of Golf positions, some paying upwards of $150k, right now though, with only one year of experience I make $26k a year base salary, plus all lesson income, club repair, etc. I have insurance paid for and get meals everyday. This job sucks though. Working 50 - 60 hours, sometimes 70 hours a week, working six days a week, sometimes working 16-17 hour days, and all just to cater to the needs of some BS member who deserves to be treated well because he fronted the $10K to get in. I don't like it anymore, but some people do. I think I'm going to go work for a bank, and then go through the GM ASEP program, I love working on cars, and have a program I can commute to, that's what I want my career to be.
I work for my dad right now and I'm also in college. My dad owns a plastic fabrication shop and I work on all the machines and over the last few years I've learned more and more about the field. At first it started out as a job, but now I'm meeting with customers and making sure they remember my face because maybe one day I'll try to be part owner. Even if you just get a job that you don't think is going to be your career, keep a positive attitude, you never know what opportunities you'll get.
I'm going to school as a Liberal Arts major now, was going to do physical therapy but after putting in 120 volunteer hours I've learned it isn't for me. I plan on getting certified as a Personal Trainer and I could make 70k a year doing that by working 30 hours a week, but no health insurance. I'm getting the AA degree in Liberal Arts so I can go into the police academy and become a Detention Deputy- $20/h starting pay, great benefits, great retirement package, good job advancement opportunity, lots of perks (bye bye speeding tickets jk) and I wouldn't be patroling the streets. My overall advice is keep your eyes, ears, and mind open, and put in some elbow grease along the way. Keep in mind- find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life.
school isn't for everyone. You can always tell the difference between the kids who are in university or college because their parents say they should be and the one's who actually want to be there.
My situation is a little different than the others so far. I finished up a college degree in 2002 in social sciences. At that point I didn't really know what I wanted to do, but I knew from numerous summer jobs that working in a factory or washing windows wasn't for me. That's why I decided to go to university. Four years later (last spring) I finished my bachelors degree in sociology...this is a degree that will pretty much get you no where without further training/certification and a lot of ambition. I knew this before I graduated and figured because i still didn't know exactly what I wanted to do that I'd apply for grad school. I got into a Masters Criminology program which I just completed a few weeks ago.
It doesn't stop there tho. I've been applying for jobs here and there for several months now. There are few jobs out there that will hire someone without any experience. This seems kind of ridiculous to a student who has had few chances to gain experience while studying. Right now I'm looking to get into corrections, maybe working as a parole/probation officer. But you can't do those jobs without extensive experience in case management. So, I'm applying as a corrections officer (prison guard) where I'll start with a $52,000 base salary. Within 6 months to a year I'll hopefully have the qualifications to leap to parole where I'll make approximately $65,000 and up.
Anyway, the message here is that even school isn't enough sometimes. With the more hands-on or technical programs like nursing this shouldn't be a problem, but if you choose to get into the 'arts' you'll need to do more (i.e., more qualifications and lots of volunteering).
I would recommend that you get into a university that offers accounting if accounting is what you like. I have degrees from two separate universities now so I know that university is a highly stimulating and motivating environment. You'll be surrounded by young and ambitious people like yourself who know a thing or two about how to have a good time...just don't assume school is a competition like so many other students.
I agree, school and hard work pay off big divedends, but you don't always have to go to school to make good money.
Very true. He seemed to have the means to go to college. In which case, he could/should try it out. In the very least, he can try a few things to see if there's something he likes. If it doesn't pan out, there are tons of things he can do w/o school. Wes & Z06 showed two examples.
For me, I worked in several different jobs before going to college. After graduation, I landed a decent job, but I have kept going to school party time for 12 years now. The school and long hours have paid off big for me, but that's also be my line of work.
When talking to people about careers, I always tell them to think long term. I see my Dad busting his back 90 hours a week, and I ask people if they can see themselves doing hard labor for peanuts when they are his age. Something that is a fun hobby now ends up being a real pain the knees/back in 30 years. It was hard labor in a factory and those very thoughts that pushed my a** into college.
I'm going to community college right now to get my A.A.S in computer graphic arts. I chose graphic arts when I got out of high school because I spend a lot of my time on the computer and see myself as a creative person. Now after 2 years, I'll be finishing up this degree in December. Sometimes I have doubts about whether or not it was a smart choice and what I should do after community college. Go to a four year college for the same thing, or something else, which means I will be there forever... There is good money in the field, but like a lot of others said to make the good money you have to have a lot of experience, qualifications, etc, and be high up. And graphic design jobs are few and far between. I like doing the work, but I'm on the fence about if it was a good choice.
What I'm trying to say is make sure whatever you are going to school for is something that is promising. I agree to go for something you like, but just because you like it doesn't mean it's going to pay the bills.
i work in the medical field. i'm a medical supply coordinator for genesis health care. i have one central building that is mine. i order, budget and maintain the inventory for the center(240 bed which is very large) i do captain purching and central trials. plus have to keep the staff in check. and try not to bust their heads. one thing i don't like when i have to write them up or be invoilded with letting them go. I'm also sent around to other facilities to help them better understand how to stay within their budgets and different product usage.
i started at chapel when i was 10 and was volunteering. i did that straight threw till i did my interships here. then took the summer after school off then started my real job.
i always have to get certified in different things so i keep moving up the corporate ladder.
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the higher you go, the more money there is to be made.
I'm sitting in my underwear working now. :) TMI anyone? I like being able to set my own hours for the most part. I get in good quality time with the family.
I'm in a similar situation. I just finished my second year in college working toward a Psychology/Sociology double major with a double minor in Anthropology and Spanish. I was unsure of what I wanted when I first started and was Undeclared for almost a year. I took some courses my freshman year and really enjoyed Anthropology and Sociology, so I decided to go for a B.A. for a combined Anthropology/Sociology degree. About the time I started my sophomore year I realized that Anthropology didn't have much of a job market other than teaching, so I decided to change it to my secondary minor (only had 6 more hours to complete). Then I looked into Psychology. I had taken AP Psychology in high school and really enjoyed it. So I decided to pursue a double major in Psychology and Sociology, since they have overlapping credits and alone won't get me very far. Currently I'm working on applying for internships to help me gain experience and connections for graduate school. It's tough, and the work is hard, but if I keep it up and get my Masters, then a good job and salary await me in the local area, if not abroad.
On the other hand, there is the family business. My great-grandfather started an insurance company that is today run by my parents. I, being the oldest of my generation in the family, have the first rights to the business. It's a good job, and insurance is something that will most likely be around for a very long time. But it's just not what I want. My parents understand and are pushing me to go through school and have a career that I will enjoy. My grandparents understand, but they want the business to stay in the family. Unfortunately, they don't quite understand how different business is today compared to their time.
And then there's the "forbidden fruit" of interests. I would love to drop out of school, move to Colorado, and work as a ski instructor during the winters and a canoe/kayak instructor during the summer. It would be the perfect life during this time. But that would not be a wise choice and I would probably regret it later down the road. As much as I don't want to at times, I know it's best to get my B.A. and then my Masters. I guess then I'll decide what I want to do with my life.
As for now, I'm going to continue my classes and working in my dead-end part time job with minimal pay. Knowing what it can be like when I'm done is what pushes me to finish. And if I do need a break somewhere in there, there's always the insurance business or even just becoming a ski bum. :D
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You know one funny thing I noticed about this thread. The people who are currently making the money didn't really set a figure for waht they're making and the ones who hope to be making the money soon set their projections. Hope it all works out for you.
Let's flip a coin. Heads I get tail, Tails I get head.
You know one funny thing I noticed about this thread. The people who are currently making the money didn't really set a figure for waht they're making and the ones who hope to be making the money soon set their projections. Hope it all works out for you.
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