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  • #16
    Re: wow...wtf?

    Originally posted by Fbody3400 View Post
    So technically its not that .1% that makes the other 99.9% of goodness redundant. Its the media's coverage. They choose what we see, we see what they choose.
    The media chooses what they put on but they are only going to put on what brings in the viewers. The biggest problem with any situation, war, politics, fuel, annything you name it. People are swayed by what they see and accept it as fact, usually the first time no questions asked, instead of going out there and doing some reserach to say is this right or wrong.
    Let's flip a coin. Heads I get tail, Tails I get head.

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    • #17
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      I truly hope the individuals in this video are the ones we hear about being killed by a roadside bomb and not decent American soldiers, scratch that... decent human beings.

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      • #18
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        Unfortuneately darwin's theory doesn't apply to humans only non bi peds. I'm a big proponet of euthanasia of stupid people and breeding licenses. There are far too many people wasting oxygen that others could be enjoying.
        Let's flip a coin. Heads I get tail, Tails I get head.

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        • #19
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          Growing up around military personel... I've come to some conclusions. Most of the soldiers we have are somewhat immature and ignorant. My dad will tell you straight up that when he joined he was a jackass and did some stupid stuff. Now, being a command sgt major... he has to deal with all the idiots and there are some REALLY STUPID soldiers out there. Hate to see this stuff happening but taunting children compared to murder is two different things. Hopefully these individuals will be taken care of (I'm sure they will) and you know that it will be worse for them then it would be for the common citizen.
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          • #20
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            Originally posted by josh98bird View Post
            Growing up around military personel... I've come to some conclusions. Most of the soldiers we have are somewhat immature and ignorant. My dad will tell you straight up that when he joined he was a jackass and did some stupid stuff. Now, being a command sgt major... he has to deal with all the idiots and there are some REALLY STUPID soldiers out there. Hate to see this stuff happening but taunting children compared to murder is two different things. Hopefully these individuals will be taken care of (I'm sure they will) and you know that it will be worse for them then it would be for the common citizen.
            that's true. what's unfortunate is to make someone an efficient soldier, you have do desensitize them of emotion when it comes to death, killing, and actions we consider cruel in a civilized environment. This just happens to be what happens when that sensitivity and sense in general is lost completely.
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            • #21
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              Wow I can't believe people fell for the same damn thing as the "good" side of our troops in the media. I just have a few things to say.

              1) Apparently not everyone is doing these things.
              2) Welcome to life.
              3) Americans aren't the only people doing these things.
              4) We're all humans, accept it, humans make mistakes.
              5) Yes, what the Marine Motari did to that puppy was wrong, But does that still mean his life is less important than a puppy? NOT saying that Animal Abuse is right ( I'm highly against it ), nor is that puppy's life worthless, however, the Marine is fighting Iraqis.
              6) What the hell has happened to America? We've gotten too soft, too many Americans are just a bunch of bleeding vaginas who don't like to fight. ( No offense to females. )
              7) America was built on war, violence, and crimes. It's in American nature to fight.
              8) It's in Mankind's nature to fight and go to war. What happened to the good ol' days when the Warrior Ethos was one of the most honored and highest in regards?
              9) Nevermind, I forgot mankind became a bunch of pussies.
              10) There's plenty of good things that people don't see that go on over there was well, don't judge from just a few, and no, they don't judge from just a few either. A lot of people don't like Americans because of how we are, and it all boils down to jealousy.

              Even if we weren't in Iraq, war would still be going on. This **** over in Arabia has been going on since before Jesus's time, what the HELL makes you think it'll stop now? Even when the ottomans were around they were still fighting each other, and even when the Mongols were.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Moses View Post
                Wow I can't believe people fell for the same damn thing as the "good" side of our troops in the media. I just have a few things to say.

                1) Apparently not everyone is doing these things.
                2) Welcome to life.
                3) Americans aren't the only people doing these things.
                4) We're all humans, accept it, humans make mistakes.
                5) Yes, what the Marine Motari did to that puppy was wrong, But does that still mean his life is less important than a puppy? NOT saying that Animal Abuse is right ( I'm highly against it ), nor is that puppy's life worthless, however, the Marine is fighting Iraqis.
                6) What the hell has happened to America? We've gotten too soft, too many Americans are just a bunch of bleeding vaginas who don't like to fight. ( No offense to females. )
                7) America was built on war, violence, and crimes. It's in American nature to fight.
                8) It's in Mankind's nature to fight and go to war. What happened to the good ol' days when the Warrior Ethos was one of the most honored and highest in regards?
                9) Nevermind, I forgot mankind became a bunch of pussies.
                10) There's plenty of good things that people don't see that go on over there was well, don't judge from just a few, and no, they don't judge from just a few either. A lot of people don't like Americans because of how we are, and it all boils down to jealousy.

                Even if we weren't in Iraq, war would still be going on. This **** over in Arabia has been going on since before Jesus's time, what the HELL makes you think it'll stop now? Even when the ottomans were around they were still fighting each other, and even when the Mongols were.
                So if we weren't fighting one person, we should fight someone else because thats our nature? You're one of the few I point my finger to (for those of you who remember the recent post). You're the problem, and I hope you never have any control over another individuals life on any level. You're not a leader of any sorts, barely a follower.
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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
                  So if we weren't fighting one person, we should fight someone else because thats our nature? You're one of the few I point my finger to (for those of you who remember the recent post). You're the problem, and I hope you never have any control over another individuals life on any level. You're not a leader of any sorts, barely a follower.
                  It's mankind's nature.

                  Quit being an Idealist and welcome in Reality. Bush would've found someone to pick a fight with, give it North Korea or Iran.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Moses View Post
                    4) We're all humans, accept it, humans make mistakes.
                    True.

                    Originally posted by Moses View Post
                    6) What the hell has happened to America? We've gotten too soft, too many Americans are just a bunch of bleeding vaginas who don't like to fight. ( No offense to females. )
                    FAIL NUMBER ONE.

                    Originally posted by Moses View Post
                    7) America was built on war, violence, and crimes. It's in American nature to fight.
                    WRONG. America was built on the ideals of equal rights to every man, animal, or thing, and the ideal of FREEDOM. Just because there was a revolutionary war to acheive independance from England does NOT mean we were built on THAT war.

                    Originally posted by Moses View Post
                    8) It's in Mankind's nature to fight and go to war. What happened to the good ol' days when the Warrior Ethos was one of the most honored and highest in regards?
                    We still honor that "warrior" for what he does in battle and serving his nation, provided that he does something that goes above and beyond benefiting the well being of fellow americans. None of the actions in that video did such.

                    Originally posted by Moses View Post
                    9) Nevermind, I forgot mankind became a bunch of pussies.
                    FAIL NO. 2. I'm proud to be a pussy right nect to you, pussy.

                    Originally posted by Moses View Post
                    10) There's plenty of good things that people don't see that go on over there was well, don't judge from just a few, and no, they don't judge from just a few either. A lot of people don't like Americans because of how we are, and it all boils down to jealousy.
                    You're right. Alot of good is happening over there. But again, you're wrong, this stuff is 99% of what the media shows people all over the world, and I hardly think that they're jealous of a country that is over $8,000,000,000,000.00 in debt, and lives everyday with an overhanging fear of another event like the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Come on, we can't even agree on which democrat we want to run in the same race.

                    Originally posted by Moses View Post
                    Even if we weren't in Iraq, war would still be going on. This **** over in Arabia has been going on since before Jesus's time, what the HELL makes you think it'll stop now? Even when the ottomans were around they were still fighting each other, and even when the Mongols were.
                    Wow, you only went back to the mongols. well for one, the mongols fought in CHINA. Not ARABIA. The wars in the middle east occured in what is now Israel, they were called the CRUSADES. Now for no.2; first you state that these wars have been going on since before Jesus's time. Then you give us two examples. NONE OF WHICH WERE BEFORE JESUS'S TIME. The ottomans reigned in the 14th century AD, and the first reference of the term mongol in history was in the 8th century AD. AD = Anno Domini = After Birth = NOT BEFORE CHRIST.

                    Please, if you are going to share your opinions, have your facts straight before you do it. Don't just rant and make an *** of yourself.

                    That post was a complete fail.
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                    • #25
                      Re: wow...wtf?

                      Originally posted by Firebirdkid96 View Post

                      Wow, you only went back to the mongols. well for one, the mongols fought in CHINA. Not ARABIA. The wars in the middle east occured in what is now Israel, they were called the CRUSADES. Now for no.2; first you state that these wars have been going on since before Jesus's time. Then you give us two examples. NONE OF WHICH WERE BEFORE JESUS'S TIME. The ottomans reigned in the 14th century AD, and the first reference of the term mongol in history was in the 8th century AD. AD = Anno Domini = After Birth = NOT BEFORE CHRIST.

                      Please, if you are going to share your opinions, have your facts straight before you do it. Don't just rant and make an *** of yourself.

                      That post was a complete fail.
                      Really? You definately don't know **** about history do you? Let me show you some pictures of the Mongolian Empire during Genghis, and then Kublai.



                      OHHHHH SNAPP!!! CHINA'S BIGGER THAN EVERYONE THOUGHT.

                      Temujin ( Genghis Khan ), just FYI started conquering Mongolia around 1160s IIRC. by the *13th* century Mongolia was about that big.

                      Hmm, I think you need to read the bible. There's some stories about this crazy cat named David fighting this big dude named Golyat the Philistinian ( Goliath for those who don't know the translation. Philistinine is also an Insulting name BTW, he hailed from Palestine IIRC ). Or how about Solomon, and his arabic wars, and when the Armies of Babylon( Modern day Iraqi area I believe) came over and conquered Jerusalem and sacked the city. Or what about when the Romans came over and had problems with the arabic people and the hebrews fighting all the time? What about when the crusades went on, or how the arabians betrayed each other when the Mongols came over. Or how about during WWI and WWII when the Palestinians and Israelites fought each other. Or how about when there was Musilms in the Schultzstaffel(SP?) near the end of WWII, because they didn't want America to win, because they knew the Jews would be migrating into Palestine like the old times.

                      Then we can continue to our "Modern" history.

                      Yeah. You failed. Go slit your wrists or something, or go read the bible and/or a history book before you try to school me on history. =)

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by Firebirdkid96 View Post
                        WRONG. America was built on the ideals of equal rights to every man, animal, or thing, and the ideal of FREEDOM. Just because there was a revolutionary war to acheive independance from England does NOT mean we were built on THAT war.
                        I thought our founding father's just didn't wanna pay taxes?

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by FirebirdPhil View Post
                          I thought our founding father's just didn't wanna pay taxes?
                          LOL. Yeah. I hope he doesn't feel like I'm getting hostile. I just didn't like his damn attitude he gave me, he could've kept a nice debate going on without the sass.


                          Anyway, yeah pretty much. No taxation without representation! >=O

                          Little does he know that Schools don't teach you a lot of the real reasons for the Revolutionary.

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Moses View Post
                            Really? You definately don't know **** about history do you? Let me show you some pictures of the Mongolian Empire during Genghis, and then Kublai.



                            OHHHHH SNAPP!!! CHINA'S BIGGER THAN EVERYONE THOUGHT.

                            Temujin ( Genghis Khan ), just FYI started conquering Mongolia around 1160s IIRC. by the *13th* century Mongolia was about that big.

                            Hmm, I think you need to read the bible. There's some stories about this crazy cat named David fighting this big dude named Golyat the Philistinian ( Goliath for those who don't know the translation. Philistinine is also an Insulting name BTW, he hailed from Palestine IIRC ). Or how about Solomon, and his arabic wars, and when the Armies of Babylon( Modern day Iraqi area I believe) came over and conquered Jerusalem and sacked the city. Or what about when the Romans came over and had problems with the arabic people and the hebrews fighting all the time? What about when the crusades went on, or how the arabians betrayed each other when the Mongols came over. Or how about during WWI and WWII when the Palestinians and Israelites fought each other. Or how about when there was Musilms in the Schultzstaffel(SP?) near the end of WWII, because they didn't want America to win, because they knew the Jews would be migrating into Palestine like the old times.

                            Then we can continue to our "Modern" history.

                            Yeah. You failed. Go slit your wrists or something, or go read the bible and/or a history book before you try to school me on history. =)

                            hey, how about you go read a history book, israel didn't exist until AFTER WWII to begin with, so you can't really call the insurgents "israelites" to begin with.

                            and as far as ghenkis conquering mongolia around the 1160's you're right. what you didn't read is that mongolia was just starting in the 700's. IT HAD TO BE THERE FOR HIM TO CONQUER IT.

                            and as far as your map, ARABIA still is NOT in the mongolian empire... OH SNAP.

                            I think you need to take your bible out of your *** and actually pick up that damn history book. ( no disrespect intended to people of religion)

                            And as far as "slitting my wrists", i think you ought to grow up and mature a bit. i think you'll find alot of people around think that was a bit too far.

                            oh yeeah. I forgot you were alive in 1776 to know every little reason that happened in the revolution so you can tell us that its all not in schools right?


                            oh and im "sassing you"? bite me, we're the same age.

                            F*** this thread. I don't waste my time arguing with people who are oblivious to facts.
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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Firebirdkid96 View Post
                              F*** this thread. I don't waste my time arguing with people who are oblivious to facts.
                              About the most mature thing you've said this thread.

                              By the way Arabia spans Saudi Arabia, Israel, Palestine, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Iran. The Seleucids had control of much of Arabia thanks to Antiochus of Antioch, as well as Parthia and Persia. :slap:

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                              • #30
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                                Damn guys... By the way some of you replied, I was sure I was going to watch a video of American Soldiers picking off Iraqi civilians with a rifle or something...

                                Im not saying it was right, but Nazi's? Gimmie an effin break...
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