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  • #16
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    no kidding lol
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    • #17
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      LOL and honestly i watched 21 on the opening weekend, and dont really remember it...

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by Windcharger99 View Post
        what they did in the movie 21 doesn't work anymore.

        there are soo many ways to cut down card counters. That is why fewer and fewer casinos use an actual shoe for blackjack and they are all starting to use continuous shufflers. More hands per hour, no chance of counting = massive profits. not to mention that 99.9% of people don't even play basic strategy or even close to it and are so scared to split or double down when appropriate that the casinos house advantage in blackjack which should be in th 1% range goes up closer to 9-14%.

        even after all is said and done counting cards combined with perfect basic strategy only brings the house advantage down to a negligible amount. adding Ace and face tracking gives you the advantage and it isn't much.

        If you are serious about making some money in a casino, determine how much you are willing to win and play baccarat. Let's say you want to win 200 dollars. playing baccarat using the martingale system you should be able to win this amount on a daily basis. There will be times when the system fails, this happens very rarely.

        here is how it works. look for a shoe that jumps around from banker to player a lot. bet 200 on banker. if you win take it home, your day is done. if it loses, bet 400 on banker, same thing. if it wins you are now up 200 bucks. If it loses you need to bet 800 the next time. you can do this up to 6400 bucks to win 200 on a $1000 max bet table. this gives you 6 chances to hit player. try tossing a coin 6 times. see if only one time it comes up heads. this is what playing baccarat is all about. it is a 50/50 with the slightest advantage on banker. which is why they take a 5% commission when banker wins. you may have wanted 200 but I am sure you can leave with 190.

        The reason the above works is because you are only trying to win 1 unit from the casino. 1 200 dollar unit. it is pretty easy to win 1 unit. people fail using systems because they are greedy or do not have the initial bankroll to do it. for the above you need a bankroll of $12,600 dollars for one try. When using systems 1 try should be 10% of your bankroll. You won't win every time, but you will win most of the time.

        The reason you use baccarat other than every other game is because you can bet on multiple spots, and it changes nothing. Unlike blackjack where every hand is independent, or roulette red or black which is not 50/50 since there are the 0 and 00 squares, not to mention table limit.

        sorry for the thread hijacking with this long winded reply to casino cheating. I work in a casino and comments about how to cheat them are always amusing.
        That's a progressive betting system that your describing and it sounds good in theory but over a long period of time it will fail. There are all sorts of claims that "x" progressive system is 15-0, it may be but here's how. Say in baseball you have a 3 game series, bet on the first game lose, double on the secong game lose, triple up on the third game win. We'll just call that 1-0 and not 1-2 and oh we made $10 after covering our losses. Odds change day to day and in the long run the math works out to it failing miserably. I know you were referencing the casinos but it's the same principle there. Too many variables and too keep doubling in anticipation of one hitting is lunacy and doomed to fail. I've tried various "systems" in sportsbetting and there is none. The best you can do is handicapp and play the percentages.
        Let's flip a coin. Heads I get tail, Tails I get head.

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        • #19
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          ok so we can all tell that kristen doesnt read entire post....usually i read the first and a couple after that....then i get board so i just post:wavey:
          WAWA-A-HOLIC

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by kristen View Post
            ok so we can all tell that kristen doesnt read entire post....usually i read the first and a couple after that....then i get board so i just post:wavey:
            haha i like the method

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