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  • #76
    Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

    Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
    Luck and coincidence, nothing more. Sad thing is, you're going to get out of college, and my dumbass who barely made it out of high school will still make more money, wanna know why? Luck and coincidence. I was in the right place at the right time. Its been hard work to KEEP my job, but getting it was nothing more than luck and coincidence.
    Are you serious? And by the way you proved my point...hard work pays off...you kept your job....without hard work you would have lost it.

    Wow this is off topic.

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    • #77
      Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

      Originally posted by IwannaCamarosoBad View Post
      I know you understand he's just saying that to get into office.
      Saying what to get into office?

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      • #78
        Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

        Originally posted by joshbrown38 View Post
        Saying what to get into office?
        This ...........

        Originally posted by Mogobs30th
        if Obama can turn our economy around, get our troops home, get needy people jobs, and change this country for the good,

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        • #79
          Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

          dude, obama is not a muslim, thats just really stupid to suggest that.

          one thing we shouldn't be doubting is both the candidates ardent love for this country.

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          • #80
            Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

            Originally posted by dgreet77 View Post
            Are you serious? And by the way you proved my point...hard work pays off...you kept your job....without hard work you would have lost it.

            Wow this is off topic.
            But hard work doesn't 100% mean a payoff, some people will get screwed over, and more often or not, they will get screwed over before there is some sort of relief and reward from the work. Thats what our society has come to. Break your bones for scraps, or go to school on a football scholarship, live a lavish lifestyle and not be able to do simple math.

            You think hard work pays off, tell that to my ex, who has her bachelors and is making $10 an hour because no one will hire her for a job doing what she knows. There is no room there because the people who got LUCKY and COINCIDENTALLY knew someone in the company first got the job, sometimes with even lesser qualifications. Its not what you know, its WHO you know.

            BTW, I work in a union, there are workers, HARD workers, and lazy workers, but everyone is making $35.44 an hour nonetheless. Only difference is the hard workers will have a job in January, while the lazy are sitting at home laid off.
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            • #81
              Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

              Originally posted by tkoforpresident View Post
              dude, obama is not a muslim, thats just really stupid to suggest that.

              one thing we shouldn't be doubting is both the candidates ardent love for this country.
              Yeah I just found that out haha, Sorry guys. I withdraw myself from this arguement

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              • #82
                Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                damn mogobs, i have a whole new respect for you

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                • #83
                  Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                  Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
                  But hard work doesn't 100% mean a payoff, some people will get screwed over, and more often or not, they will get screwed over before there is some sort of relief and reward from the work. Thats what our society has come to. Break your bones for scraps, or go to school on a football scholarship, live a lavish lifestyle and not be able to do simple math.

                  You think hard work pays off, tell that to my ex, who has her bachelors and is making $10 an hour because no one will hire her for a job doing what she knows. There is no room there because the people who got LUCKY and COINCIDENTALLY knew someone in the company first got the job, sometimes with even lesser qualifications. Its not what you know, its WHO you know.

                  BTW, I work in a union, there are workers, HARD workers, and lazy workers, but everyone is making $35.44 an hour nonetheless. Only difference is the hard workers will have a job in January, while the lazy are sitting at home laid off.
                  Yeah people get screwed. Everybody knows that. But if you quit working hard because you lose out once or five times...come on now....you and I both know you can't just quit trying. And there are many, many, many people who don't go to school on a sports scholarship. Most of the kids I know take out loans to go to college or work super hard at it to keep scholarship money that they got just from academics. Look I'm just saying that working hard at something pays off more often than not...and if more people worked harder we wouldn't have so many problems here. And I think that keeping a job is 100% payoff. I'm not saying hard work will make everybody a millionaire. I'm just saying it does pay....can we agree on that?

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                  • #84
                    Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                    Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
                    Just a little off-topic, but this political thread isn't NEARLY as bad as some of the ones I can archive. So far its been pretty civil, don't lock until it gets personal.
                    ...but of course. Wouldn't think of it.

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                    • #85
                      Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                      I cant wait till december when all of this is over.

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                      • #86
                        Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                        Originally posted by Archer View Post
                        Palin may be hot, and she may have good values, b ut you have to look at this from afar..

                        McCain- could die at any time which means Palin would be president.. she has no experiance in government besides governing a state that has 1/2 the population of Chicago.

                        Obama- doesnt have ALOT of experience, but has great Ideas.. However, he is Black (which is fine) but there are red necks out there including the stupid *** KKK, and his life was already threaten even before he is president. So there is another plot for an assassination against a president. so if he was to ever be killed, this gives up Biden, which is experienced in Gonvernment and has the same Values as Obama.

                        Im an indipendent, I see both parties good and bad values and go from there. But you are right, History will be made here.. And I cant wait. America needs a change, and the damn conservitives need to be set aside. lol

                        Archer
                        Sorry I haven't been online that much.

                        I don’t know how you can look at McCain's age being a factor. That's like saying all people 20 and younger are retarded, 20-35 are horny, 35-60 are a$$holes, and all the rest are good and dead. You could die at any time so don’t base your vote on that.

                        Also say McCain did die and Palin took over... her lack of experience would be a good thing. She is not corrupted and dishonest yet. BTW she is hot! ++

                        Onto Obama... I learned at an early age; if I don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all! So I will keep my mouth shut.

                        It should be a rule, if you have not served or are currently serving in the military you should not be able to vote. Too many hippies out there, living off the system, wanting more, while I work my *** off for what I got. People need to learn, life is hard... DEAL WITH IT! With all the good times comes the bad. And for all the people who want Bill Clinton back in office, you all know nothing. Look at who he is married to and who he "had sexual relations with." Then ask yourself if you want that all over again.

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                        • #87
                          Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                          Originally posted by ZO6vette037 View Post
                          Sorry I haven't been online that much.

                          I don’t know how you can look at McCain's age being a factor. That's like saying all people 20 and younger are retarded, 20-35 are horny, 35-60 are a$$holes, and all the rest are good and dead. You could die at any time so don’t base your vote on that.

                          Also say McCain did die and Palin took over... her lack of experience would be a good thing. She is not corrupted and dishonest yet. BTW she is hot! ++

                          Onto Obama... I learned at an early age; if I don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it at all! So I will keep my mouth shut.

                          It should be a rule, if you have not served or are currently serving in the military you should not be able to vote. Too many hippies out there, living off the system, wanting more, while I work my *** off for what I got. People need to learn, life is hard... DEAL WITH IT! With all the good times comes the bad. And for all the people who want Bill Clinton back in office, you all know nothing. Look at who he is married to and who he "had sexual relations with." Then ask yourself if you want that all over again.
                          QFMFT

                          personally, i think that every american should have to serve atleast 2 years in the military right out of highschool. maybe then kids these days wouldnt be such a collective waste of space and we wouldnt be such a nation full of pussies and tree hugging hippy morons. i regret all the time not going into the military right out of highschool. id do it now but they wouldnt take my crippled 25 yr old azz :(
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                          • #88
                            Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                            Originally posted by Mogobs30th View Post
                            Wanna know why I am going to vote for Obama? Because he is a counter-culture individual. He questions that which most people don't question. He puts a different spin on things. Its what this country needs, re-evaluation.
                            Unions would definately love to vote for Obama. I just heard from my Union rep to support Obama. Those wackos don't even know that I already quit my job.

                            Personally I can't afford his proposals. He's weak when it comes to illegal alien issue and he propose more taxes. That would drive small businesses down.

                            Just wait for the debate. McCain is going to destroy him. Obama is weak on debate. He 's good at giving scripted speeches but crumbles on a debate. Hilary proved that. McCain is strong on debates. But the media will eventually find a way to make Obama look good.

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                            • #89
                              Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                              Originally posted by ZO6vette037 View Post
                              And for all the people who want Bill Clinton back in office, you all know nothing. Look at who he is married to and who he "had sexual relations with." Then ask yourself if you want that all over again.
                              I would LOVE to have that all over again. With that economy, I will BUY him a blowjob.
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                              • #90
                                Re: This is the most interesting Presidential race EVER!!!

                                Well, since you're buying... :naughty:

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