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Posts like this re-emphasize my thoughts on the Hyundai Accent with $6k in mods.... to keep up with a stock Mustang GT.
I hate that B.S get a v8...well if your gunna go get a v8 F-body, why not go the extra step and get a v8 vette? but why bother modding that platform when you can go one step further and get a viper with a v10...No, no, why bother with that...why not go get a v12 and star modding from that...F*ck it...you want the best platform to start with...go get a bugatti and start with that....
Mod your car the way you want it to be...doesnt matter how you look at things, there will always be a car faster then you, and there will always be a better platform to modify from. Plus, if everyone modifies the same flipping car then its boring...do what makes you happy. If a hyundai with 6k in mods makes that person happy, thats all that matters...
I hate that B.S get a v8...well if your gunna go get a v8 F-body, why not go the extra step and get a v8 vette? but why bother modding that platform when you can go one step further and get a viper with a v10...No, no, why bother with that...why not go get a v12 and star modding from that...F*ck it...you want the best platform to start with...go get a bugatti and start with that.
Dude...the vette is about 40k more (used) than a V8 f-body, and the viper is MUCH more than that! Not including the cost of insurance.
My point stands. Save your money and swap/get a V8 F-Bod. You will save much more money by modding a V8, and you'll get much more RWHP with the same exact cost of modding a V6...period!
we have vettes here for 20grand...my point is...you can tell anyone that bought v8 f-body or vette or w.e to save there money and buy the next best platform to mod on...I say do w.e makes you happy...I think swapping to a v8 is dumb unless you blow your engine...otherwise just buy the damn v8 to begin with...
I mean...why do people mod hondas? srt-4's? and all those 4 bangers?
I think swapping to a v8 is dumb unless you blow your engine...otherwise just buy the damn v8 to begin with...
I mean...why do people mod hondas? srt-4's? and all those 4 bangers?
We are talking about getting the most n/a for your money here...right? For the same cost, maybe cheaper, you can get more power from swapping for an extra 2 cylinders.
Oh, and people mod their honda's, srt 4's, etc. because the parts are fairly cheap and readily available. V6 parts for the F-Bodies aren't too easy to come by, so the price is hiked up substantially. I know, because a set of headers and catted mids for my GTO is over $1300.00...which pisses me off!
We are talking about getting the most n/a for your money here...right? For the same cost, maybe cheaper, you can get more power from swapping for an extra 2 cylinders.
Oh, and people mod their honda's, srt 4's, etc. because the parts are fairly cheap and readily available. V6 parts for the F-Bodies aren't too easy to come by, so the price is hiked up substantially. I know, because a set of headers and catted mids for my GTO is over $1300.00...which pisses me off!
I dunno if it would necessarily be cheaper...you need a new pcm, new K-member, new wiring harness...New tranny? (not sure if it bolts up differently)
I believe we have had members on here try and swap and run into nothing buy expensive problems...if you are going to go that route, I suggest just selling and buying a v8 then....
We are talking about getting the most n/a for your money here...right? For the same cost, maybe cheaper, you can get more power from swapping for an extra 2 cylinders.
So, you're telling me I can find an LS1 (in decent condition), w/trans, and all the necessary swap parts including ECU, harness, subframe, exhaust, etc., etc., etc. for $2k? Show me that and I'll be all over it.
Or, for about $2k (or less) I can have a 3.8L with almost the same hp as the factory LS1...and never have to pull the heads, much less the motor...
I could see your argument if you were looking for 400+ hp, but IMO it makes no sense in the context of the o/p.
So, you're telling me I can find an LS1 (in decent condition), w/trans, and all the necessary swap parts including ECU, harness, subframe, exhaust, etc., etc., etc. for $2k? Show me that and I'll be all over it. .
Maybe not a swap, but I'll bet you I can find a used Z28 for something darn close to that price. Matter in fact, I already found one of those too: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/938000060.html
Not your area, but you get my point.
Oh, and you can leave the subframe where it is. That is unless you are going from a hard / t-top, to a 'vert.
I dunno if it would necessarily be cheaper...you need a new pcm, new K-member, new wiring harness...New tranny?
Yes, you will need a tranny too because the bolt pattern on the bell housing is different as well as the input shaft. Subframe is the same, K member is different so yes, you'll need one of those too.
Dont forget a new gauge cluster and front suspension. By the way, you'll also have to do some re-wiring of the PCM and wring harness for the fuse box (good luck with that).
People underestimate the amount of work and tools that it takes to swap in a V8. Its not as economical as people think.
Maybe not a swap, but I'll bet you I can find a used Z28 for something darn close to that price. Matter in fact, I already found one of those too: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/938000060.html
Not your area, but you get my point.
Read his post. He already said selling the whole car and buying a whole new one is the best way to have a V8.
Read his post. He already said selling the whole car and buying a whole new one is the best way to have a V8.
It's the only way I see as cheaper if you decide to go that route...way too many problems you can run into, and those problems cost nothing but $$$
Was it OI bird on here that tried a swap, ended up dumping like 8g's into it and it still wasnt running? (might have been a diff member)
not to mention that if/when you do find a v8 engine you should ideally have it rebuilt since you have no idea how the thing was treated by the previous owner and you may be installing a ticking time bomb...
my question is, why try to acheive a certain hp mark? ill never understand that. if you want a goal, shoot for a time bracket. its not like it takes a mad scientist with 300hp to get a v6 into the 13s these days. hell littleG did more with less than anyone ive seen way back when.
current car- 95 Trans am- bolt ons, parked and collecting dust. why? because **** it
my question is, why try to acheive a certain hp mark? ill never understand that. if you want a goal, shoot for a time bracket.
That's easy - hp is one of several ways we have to measure performance gains. What if someone could care less about 1/4 mile (or 1/8 mile) times, but just wants his car to make 50% more power? As you alluded to, you can make car A with XXX hp run just as fast in the 1/4 mile as car B with XXX+50 hp, just by working with gearing, suspension, tires, transmission, weight, and so on. But none of that gives you any real comparison of the engine's performance. And, all else (including driver) being equal, more hp/tq will always = faster times. HP is just one way to measure performance, but it is one of the most universally accepted measures.
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